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anon2 - Subject: The Wall Street Journal has ties with Microsof= t ( Jun 14, 2001, 18:02:33 )

Though it is less well known than MSNBC, the Wall Street Journal also h= as ties with Microsoft:

Dow Jones, NBC, and Microsoft have a publishing partnership:

> The announcement today is part of a broader deal that links NBC'= ;s CNBC television channel and the Journal. Under the terms of the deal, = the two companies will combine their operations in Asia using the CNBC br= and. Dow Jones will also begin supplying news and updates from its source= s to NBC, through the CNBC channel and the MSNBC Web site, which is joint= ly owned with Microsoft Corp.

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/zdnn/1209/261929.html

> Additionally as part of the television alliance with NBC, Dow Jones= joined
Microsoft Corp. and NBC in certain interactive initiatives, including
supplying highlights of WSJ.com to the MSNBC internet site, and an owners= hip
interest in MSNBC Business Video in the United States, renamed CNBC/Dow J= ones
Business Video.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/29924/0000029924-00-000007.txt

> The deal also joins NBC and Dow Jones in two interactive initiative= s with Microsoft . . . NBC, Microsoft and Dow Jones will co-own interacti= ve rights to develop CNBC video for media other than television.

http://www.expressindia.com/fe/daily/19971210/34455543.html

Dow Jones has (had?) a technology support deal with Microsoft:

> Dow Jones, Microsoft in news service deal . . . Microsoft Corp. has= entered a deal with Dow Jones and Company Inc. to revamp the company'= ;s troubled Telerate financial news service, turning the proprietary offe= ring into an IP-based service that will run on Windows NT.

I was working for Dow Jones at the time, and shortly after that deal was = signed, a memo came around informing us that Windows is now the official = OS of Dow Jones Markets, and should be given preference (over Unix) for a= ny new development.

I also noticed at the time (though this is subjective) that stories about= Microsoft in the Wall Street Journal seemed to get friendlier, and less = focussed on the problems Microsoft was having with the DOJ.

Microsoft was added to the Dow Jones Index:

http://www.thestreet.com/pf/comment/taskmaster/805418.html

Which helped buoy up Microsoft stock, due to institutional trading based = on the index.

But the timing seemed strange. The DJ Index had always favored stability= , yet Microsoft was added at a time when the DOJ case put their future in= doubt, and made their stock price unpredictable.

Maybe it had something to do with other "contract negotiations" that were= occurring at the time between Microsoft and Dow Jones:

> "In just a few days, Dow Jones will add Microsoft to the prestigiou= s list of 30 key companies that make up the Dow Jones industrial average = -- but behind the scenes, relations between Dow Jones and Microsoft are a= s strained as can be.

> Microsoft objected to virtually every detail of the story. Moreover= , Microsoft accused Dow Jones executives of leaking the contract to a Dow= Jones reporter while in the middle of negotiating with Microsoft. In a l= etter to Dow Jones dated Oct. 22, Microsoft chief operating officer Bob H= erbold said that the clause was based on a draft contract, that it was pr= oposed by a Dow Jones lawyer and that Microsoft had actually rejected the= language.

http://www.salon.com/tech/log/1999/10/28/microsoft_dow/

The net result is that I would question what the Wall Street Journal has = to say about Microsoft just as much as I would question MSNBC or ZDNet.

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Issue 12 - July 2001

FREE SOFTWARE MATTERS

by Professor Eben Moglen

Microsoft before the earthquake

Microsoft is continuing its charm offen= sive against free software. Last month we were merely a threat to the Ame= rican Way of Life. This month, it turns out, we are "a cancer". That, at = any rate, was the conclusion Steve Ballmer offered one of the leading dai= ly newspapers in the US.

The situation for Microsoft is growing serious. Increasingly hyperboli= c rhetoric is not by itself a good public relations strategy. In the week= s preceding the release of an opinion by the United States Court of Appea= ls in Washington on Microsoft's appeal of the order breaking it up for an= titrust violations, aggressive and violent rhetoric directed against a co= mpetitor has some serious costs, to say nothing of what Microsoft loses b= y appearing ridiculous.

But Microsoft is not improvising this barrage of baloney. It is procee= ding on the basis of a large and expensive plan drawn up by one of the pu= blic relations firms to which Microsoft pays many millions a year. That p= lan includes not only this week's comments about "cancer", but also the r= elease of a Microsoft FAQ abou= t the GPL [N.B. Microsoft Wo= rd format].

As someone who frequently answers questions about the GPL, I'm not sur= prised to find that Microsoft doesn't do a very good job. In fact, asking= Microsoft to explain the GPL is a little like asking Joe Stalin to expla= in the US Constitution. Microsoft's document is designed to emphasise tha= t "the GPL is a complicated agreement." According to Microsoft, "no respo= nsible business should use GPL software without ensuring that its lawyers= have read the licence and explained the business' rights and obligations= =2E" Note that this says one shouldn't even use free programs with= out paying your lawyer to read the licence. I wonder if Microsoft is thin= king of publishing a document urging you to consult your lawyer before cl= icking your acceptance of the next Microsoft EULA.

Not only does Microsoft want to establish a false vision of the GPL's = complexity and dangerousness, it wants of course to obscure the central f= act: that the GPL is intended to create and preserve freedom. "Even limit= ed or relatively obscure uses," Microsoft says, "(e.g., including a few l= ines of GPL code in a commercial product or linking directly or indirectl= y to a GPL library) may have a dramatic effect on your legal rights and o= bligations." Of course, including a few lines of Microsoft source code in= your commercial product would have a dramatic effect on your legal oblig= ations, too: you'd soon be looking at a Microsoft lawsuit for trade secre= t misappropriation and copyright infringement. We almost always let you d= o things they absolutely prohibit. That's why we must be wrong.

Everything Microsoft wants to make very complicated is indeed pretty s= imple: You can use GPL'd code however you want, but don't try to reduce t= he rights of others in the final product below the rights we gave you in = the GPL'd software you used. Microsoft says that means forcing you to giv= e your intellectual property away. We say it means that if you use free c= omponents in work you distribute to others, you should make it possible f= or those others to share and share alike. But you never have to use free = components if you don't want to, and you can use your own modifications t= o GPL'd code without having any obligation to anyone at all, so long as y= ou don't distribute. Even if you never reuse GPL'd code, you can learn fr= om it how to do almost anything computers can do, and then go write progr= ams of your own which you can license however you want. We think that hel= ps everyone, at every level of commitment to freedom, to have better soft= ware.

Microsoft's GPL FAQ isn't going to have much influence with one of the= communities it's aimed at: software developers. Independent developers a= re more likely to consult the GNU Project's GPL FAQ: why ask Napoleon Bonaparte to exp= lain the First Amendment? But Microsoft is also aiming this phase of its = public relations war on free software at corporate bigshots, because a la= rge strategic crisis is looming.

The economics of the palmtop market are about to change drastically, a= s global consumer electronics firms release palmtop products that compete= with established devices sold at high markups only possible for propriet= ary technology. Prices are going to drop sharply; thus the idea of using = free software for all but the top layer of software in palmtop devices is= overwhelmingly attractive. Microsoft will have trouble remaining in the = appliance market once manufacturers have learned that the GPL doesn't pre= vent them from putting a thin proprietary layer on top of a GNU/Linux sys= tem and embedding that combination in their hardware. They will get the s= uperb reliability of free software, and a global codebase, at zero margin= al cost and low fixed cost. Windows CE and all follow-ons will be dead, a= nd Microsoft will be excluded from the smallest computers that do real wo= rk, which is where the future of the industry always lies. Checkmate.

So Microsoft is addressing its FUD about the GPL to the highest leader= ship of major global corporations, companies who put their nameplates on = the electronics of daily life. Microsoft is trying to convince them not t= o use free software in their appliance products, by claiming it's murky, = risky, difficult, arcane. But freedom is simple, as the appliance makers = are going to see in the end, with their eyes firmly on the bottom line. A= n earthquake in the industry is coming: free software matters.

Key links

Microsoft's FAQ about the GPL

GNU's FAQ about the GPL

(Microsoft Word formats may be loaded and parsed using the free wv librar= y)

Eben Moglen is professor of law and legal history at Columbia Universi= ty Law School. He serves without fee as general counsel of the Free Softw= are Foundation. You can read more of his writing at http:= //moglen.law.columbia.edu <= BR>

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ac - Subject: Well-Disguised FUD -- Clever ( Jun 11, 2001, 08:= 58:00 )

The first paragraph promises good things:

> Linux has been heralded as the first organically created operating = system: an open-source OS enhanced and backed by thousands of programmers= worldwide. In the process, it has grown in popularity.

But it doesn't last long:

> However, Linux may have reached a turning point at which it can eit= her address several important challenges or face problems that could limi= t future adoption.

Translation: Linux isn't ready yet. You should wait.

Then three paragraphs acknowledging Linux's success as a server OS (t= hough the IDC quote was a little backhanded), to establish the author'= ;s credentials as a friend of Linux.

Then comes the "but":

> But there are potential obstacles to future growth.

Linux already has 27% of the server market. How many obstacles can there= be???

Some quotes from IBM's Dan Frye are taken out of context to say:

> the OS thus might fragment into multiple commercial flavors, as Uni= x did.

Translation: Standard, tired old FUD.

It's interesting how they talk about the possibility that Linux *migh= t* fragment, yet they never discuss the fact that Windows *has* fragmente= d into multiple, incompatible versions.

Continuing:

> Meanwhile, there is still a lack of mainstream commercial Linux app= lications

Only the word "mainstream" keeps this sentence from being a lie.

Linux has two full office suites -- StarOffice and Applixware -- that cou= ld satisfy the needs of 90% of small businesses. Both suites have reason= ably good support for MS Office file formats. Other office suites are on= the way.

Windows, on the other hand, has only *one* viable office suite (the other= s are being driven out of business).

Linux has professional web servers, e-commerce servers, and databases. L= inux also has better network management tools than Windows.

> Linux offers limited support for databases containing more than a t= erabyte of data.

Patently false. Linux runs on various 64 bit platforms, where it can han= dle large files. IBM also provides the ability for Linux to access DB/2 = on S390.

> Enterprises may also be reluctant to consider Linux without

This is a standard technique for telling a lie without actually telling a= lie.

Technically, the above phrase means, "Businesses want..."

But the reader is expected to read it as, "Linux is lacking..."

Thus:

> [Linux is lacking...] a full framework of global service and suppor= t, vendor commitment, and a high level of functionality including scalabi= lity, availability, manageability, and security, said George Weiss, an an= alyst for market research firm Gartner.

All of that, of course, is untrue.

> In fact, a survey by the Miller Freeman media company concluded tha= t the largest roadblock to implementing Linux is the perceived lack of co= mmercial support and service, cited by almost a third of respondents.=

The article never says that the "perception" is false, which leaves the r= eader to assume that it is true.

> Linux . . . is beginning to address some of these concerns.

If Linux "is addressing the concerns," then the failings implied in the p= revious paragraphs must be true. Right?

That completes the first page of the article, which is where many readers= will stop.

The second page is mostly background information on how the Linux develop= ment and distribution system works. It seems fairly accurate, although i= t might cause non-Linux users to view the whole process as too complex to= handle. The article never mentions that the typical Linux user doesn= 9;t have to deal with, or even know about, that complexity.

The second page finishes off with this zinger:

> ?However, the GPL has never been tested in court,? Quandt said, so = someone could theoretically violate the license and maintain an incompati= ble Linux version.

Continuing with Page 3:

> The variety of Linux distributions has created numerous challenges.=

Just in case readers forgot that Linux is complex and fragmenting.

> For example, there are relatively few commercial Linux-based applic= ations,

Just in case readers forgot about the lack of applications.

> because of commercial vendors? misconceptions about the open-source= community.

Clever. It warms the hearts of Linux supporters, who know full well abou= t those miconceptions, but it means nothing to readers who are new to Lin= ux.

> ?They think they have to give the product away or publish their sou= rce code,? he explained. ?[But] more commercial vendors are realizing tha= t developing software for Linux is like developing for other platforms.?<= /i>

By now, astute readers should have noticed a pattern. Whenever the artic= le wants to make a positive statement about Linux, it doesn't say it = straight out. Instead it weakens it through the use of a quote, implying= that it is just someone's opinion.

For example, on page one, the article did *not* say "Linux is more than a= fad." Instead, it said, in a quote, that "nonbelievers can no longer di= smiss" Linux as a fad.

The article did *not* say that "Linux is real." Instead, it said, in a q= uote, that if "vendors are willing to risk their credibility" on it, then= , "it?s easy for customers to conclude there must be something real about= Linux."

And here, on page three, the article does *not* say that developers can k= eep their source code closed. Instead, in a quote, it says that "more co= mmercial vendors are realizing that developing software for Linux is like= developing for other platforms.?

Nevertheless, that faint praise was enough to re-establish the writer'= ;s credentials as a friend of Linux.

But let's not get our hopes up. The next sentence reads:

> Nonetheless, Linux has not made inroads on the desktop.

I doubt that, and the author certainly can't prove it.

Lacking proof, he quotes an "expert":

> Dave McAllister, director of strategic technologies with Linux hard= ware vendor eGenera, said Linux won?t dominate the desktop because Window= s has had such a huge head start.

To make such a definite statement about the future, especially to confide= ntly predict Linux's failure, in light of its past successes, is a li= e.

But, it's a quote, so the author of the article can't be held res= ponsible. Right?

The next section is titled, "Supporting multiple Linux versions," and it = starts out with another of those seemingly positive, long-winded quotes:

> ?Developers don?t have to develop different versions of their progr= am for different Linux distributions,? Ula said. ?The only time they have= to create different binary executables is when they are using shared lib= raries and other nonstandard system-support utilities.?

But the next sentence quickly couteracts the quote:

> Nonetheless, he said, commercial software should be tested on every= version of Linux it runs on and every version of the libraries and servi= ces it requires.

More reasonable advice might have been to test on three major distributio= ns of Linux (say Debian, Red Hat, and SuSE). But that assumes the articl= e is actually trying to help its readers, as opposed to making Linux seem= overly complicated.

The rest of the page tells the reader about all the problems that will be= encountered when developing for Linux, including different file system h= ierarchies, different packaging methods (incorrectly referred to as "file= formats"), and different library versions.

The overall impression, for readers not familiar with Linux, is that Linu= x is a mass of incompatibilities, and almost impossible for developers to= manage.

The article does nothing to provide the other side of the story, to put t= he problems into perspective.

The fact is, the problems are minor compared to the good news Linux has f= or developers.

The article should have mentioned the high degree of support for industry= -wide standards, the stable file formats, the excellent forward compatibi= lity, the consistent set of development tools available across all distri= butions and multiple hardware platforms.

The article should have mentioned that anyone used to developing applicat= ions for multiple Windows variations will find the different Linux distri= butions remarkably compatible by comparison.

The article should have mentioned the advantages that Open Source brings = for developers.

But the article didn't mention any of those things.

The last page discusses the progress of the Linux Standard Base, and incl= udes the quote that, "Standards are important in order for Linux to reach= a critical mass," both of which sound good, except that the message to n= on-Linux users is once again that, "Linux is not ready yet."

Then we get this rather twisted statement:

> This could be important because major corporations may hesitate to = adopt Linux until the OS receives widespread support from such industry l= eaders as IBM.

How about saying, instead, that "This *is* important, and major corporati= ons have *no* reason to hesitate, now that Linux *is* supported by indust= ry leaders such as IBM."

And, finally, just in case any non-Linux users have managed to read to th= e end of the article, and still maintain some optimism about Linux, the a= rticle finishes off with this reminder:

> However, said Gartner?s Weiss, ?A market change of such magnitude u= sually requires several years of maturity and evolution.?

The cleverness of this FUD piece is shown by the fact that most posters w= ere fooled into thinking that it was a positive article about Linux.

One last note on the position of the IEEE. In 1998, the DOJ started its = current case against Microsoft, there was no .Net, and Win2K seemed to be= going nowhere. In November of that same year, the IEEE held its first "= Corporate Recognitions Luncheon," in which three corporations received aw= ards. One of the three was Microsoft, who received the IEEE's Corpor= ate Innovation Recognition award. See:

http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/INST/nov98/corprec.html

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--------------8A254326CBB57679A9F1D02B-- From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:18 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.37> [204.68.24.91] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 893FFkqG10621M05; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:32:52 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by nwcst091 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:32:52 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA91946 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA27997; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:31:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B24F27A.4223F938@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:31:54 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alice Bennett CC: "T. Max Devlin" , Carl Mayer , Michael Goins Subject: MS funded report claims that Linux is unpopular for servers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 893FFkqG10621M05 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2772060,00.html -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:18 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.43> [204.68.24.39] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 770FFkP6z0655M28; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:57:52 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nwcst039 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:57:52 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA89724 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA25640 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:57:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B24EA6A.87B7CA75@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:57:30 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Advice for managers on how to improve their projects with hacker principles Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------336A065C1AE23097D5659013" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 770FFkP6z0655M28 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------336A065C1AE23097D5659013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/jun01/care.html -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. --------------336A065C1AE23097D5659013 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name="care.html" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="care.html" Content-Base: "http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/r esource/jun01/care.html" Content-Location: "http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/r esource/jun01/care.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resources: Careers =

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The = open-source movement can teach project managers a lot= =
Learning = from Hackers
By = Denis F. Cioffi, The George Washington University= =
"Linux = is so totally dreamy!" reads the caption below an ecs= tatic = screaming teenager in a recent advertisement for IBM = Corp. = Unthinkable 10 years ago, Big Blue has embraced open-= source = programming in a big way, proclaiming "a true softwar= e meritocracy = where anyone can share, refine and customize code tha= t's open = and available for all." Ahh, freedom is good. =
Nor is = IBM the only company buying into Linux. Last year, Li= nux accounted = for 27 percent of operating-system software for compu= ter servers = sold, up from 17 percent in 1998, according to market= research = firm International Data Corp., Framington, Mass. =
3D"care01" = But Linux = is more than just a product--it's a mindset. As a man= agement = professor (and one-time astrophysicist), I had wonder= ed about = Linux's success. On the surface, the distance between= formal = management and the open-source movement that created = Linux = could not be greater. Apparently produced without ben= efit = of central oversight, Linux seemed to defy the canon = that = management is essential to good products and services= =2E =
In fact, = managers can learn much from open-source practitioner= s, or = hackers, as Eric Raymond's 1997 manifesto "The Cathed= ral and = the Bazaar" calls them. Unlike the troublesome comput= er vandals = about whom we read in the mainstream press, open-sour= ce hackers = are people who "solve problems and build things." Mos= t engineers = would be proud to be described that way. So would mos= t project = managers. =
Traditionally, = a project manager is the person who makes sure that a= ll budgets, = deadlines, and schedules are met. There are any numbe= r of = tools they may use to get the job done--work breakdow= ns, network = diagrams, scheduling charts, and so on. I would argue= , though, = that being skilled at using such tools is less import= ant than = having a good outlook--one that encourages cooperatio= n, yet = gives each worker the opportunity to be creative. =
Many = project managers, though, fail to heed employees' con= cerns, = skills, and aspirations. Indeed, the New Hacker's Dic= tionary = defines management as follows: "Corporate power elite= s distinguished = primarily by their distance from actual productive wo= rk and = their chronic failure to manage (see also suit)." =
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The = hacker attitudes
Hackers, = on the other hand, exhibit five distinct attitudes, a= ccording = to Raymond: =

The = world is full of fascinating problems waiting to be= solved. =

Nobody = should ever have to solve a problem twice. =

Boredom = and drudgery are evil. =

Freedom = is good. =

Attitude = is no substitute for competence. =

These = five attitudes provide excellent guidance for project= managers, = and indeed for all managers. But how does one apply t= hem in = the real world? =
First, = it's important to understand what a project is. The s= tandard = management definition refers to a temporary effort to= create = something new. A process, by contrast, is work that i= s repeatable = and well understood. For each project to be truly new= , then, = completed projects need to be studied thoroughly, so = that = those aspects that are routine or repeatable can be t= urned = into processes. =
For engineers = and scientists, the fascinating problems exist where = processes = have yet to be defined. Take George Lake, a leading a= strophysicist = who last year became chief information officer of the= Institute = for Systems Biology in Seattle, Wash. Explaining his = move, = Lake said, "Biology has some of the hardest problems = out there." = So the more one reserves the word "project" for work = that = truly results in never-before-attained outcomes, the = greater = the opportunity for fascination, and the greater the = possibility = of attracting good minds. In a mature organization, t= he term = "fascinating project" should be redundant. =
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Never = solve a problem twice
The second = hacker attitude complements the first nicely because = it ensures = that only unsolved problems remain. Let me offer a tr= ivial = example, which I call "A Physicist's Approach to Ward= robe = Processing." =
When = I began my transition from working scientist to scien= ce administrator, = I had to wear a jacket and tie every day for the firs= t time = in my life. (One reason I had gone into science in th= e first = place was because scientists can wear what they want.= ) After = a few days of frittering away early-morning minutes d= eciding = which tie went with which shirt, jacket, and pants, I= said = to myself, "This is nuts." Thus was born the Clothes = Matrix. = Together with my wife--one should recognize one's cor= e competencies = and outsource when necessary--I determined all the ap= pealing = sartorial combinations and printed them in a matrix.<= /font> =
Getting = dressed then amounted to simply choosing the shirt or= tie = I felt like wearing, and letting the matrix determine= the = rest. (The evolved matrix is now computer-generated i= n a searchable = format.) Silly? Maybe. Efficient? Definitely. A more = sophisticated = embodiment of attitude 2 is mass production--automati= ng routine = tasks frees people to tackle new problems. =
At the = close of every project, the manager needs to ask, Wha= t did = we learn? And how can we do better? The importance of= fully = documenting the results of each project becomes obvio= us. A = good hacker not only debugs code but also annotates i= t, so = that others unfamiliar with the code may understand a= nd use = it. Likewise, a project manager should identify whate= ver good = and bad techniques arise, so that the organization ca= n gain = from that experience. Sadly, such activities are ofte= n considered = peripheral to the project by upper management.= =
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Boredom = is evil
Some managers = have great difficulty with the third hacker attitude,= insisting = that a certain amount of boredom and drudgery in work= is unavoidable. = Some organizations essentially repeat the same work o= ver the = course of many years. While the term "project" may be= used = to describe what they do, in reality the employees ar= e solving = essentially the same problem many times, finding litt= le challenge = and consuming much effort. The problem is exacerbated= when = such organizations hire highly educated people, presu= mably = to solve the difficult problems that a real project w= ould = entail. =
While = boredom and drudgery exist, though, a good manager tr= ies to = reduce their occurrence, appreciates those who must c= ontend = with boring work, and looks for ways to minimize dull= operations = through automation. (To be sure, tedious paperwork is= the = name of the game in project management; nobody seems = to have = a solution for that.) =
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Freedom = is good
The fourth = attitude is quite powerful. Employees who are free to= think = and to act will share their ideas and point out mista= kes as = they occur; that in turn improves a company's bottom = line. = After all, if you're not willing to give workers free= dom, = why hire bright people in the first place? Fundamenta= l to = freedom is valid (in the sense of modeling reality) i= nformation, = which in turn requires honesty. =
One need = only scan the newspapers to see how rarely this attit= ude is = embraced. Stories abound of projects that run over bu= dget = by millions or billions of dollars, or fall behind sc= hedule = by months or years. The Boston Turnpike Authority's B= ig Dig = tunnel project is a prime example. Its total cost bal= looned = from an estimated US $2.3 billion in 1984 to, at last= count, = $18 billion, a nearly eightfold increase. A federal t= ask force = investigating the project found that project managers= had = intentionally covered up problems, and the head of th= e project = resigned. =
So ask = yourself: does your organization maintain an environm= ent that = gives workers freedom and encourages communication, o= r does = it reward silence, while hoping for excellence? =
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Competence = trumps attitude
After the = Big Dig scandal broke, the governor of Massachusetts = asked = the Turnpike Authority chairman to resign, but then n= oted = that the chairman had withheld information "in his ze= al to = do the job and complete this project." The fifth atti= tude = explains that "zeal" or any other emotion does not ex= cuse = dishonesty and incompetence. Indeed, the other four h= acker = attitudes mean nothing without the fifth. Freedom giv= es excellence = its opportunity, but talent and hard work produce a s= uccessful = result. =
Taken = together, the last two attitudes make management inco= mpetence = impossible, I would argue. Unless an organization has= hired = only incompetents, the information needed to identify= errors = and fix them will eventually surface. Freedom means t= he messenger = isn't shot, and a reverence for competence means need= ed corrections = will be made. The cycle feeds on itself toward a stea= dy state = where mistakes exist for a vanishingly small time. =
Should = we replace professional management ethics codes with = the five = hacker attitudes? The attitudes communicate their int= entions = well because of their simplicity, and their simplicit= y is = their power. I suggest starting with the last one and= working = backward. As a reward for your competence, support of= freedom, = reduction of others' drudgery, and appreciation that = people = should not waste their time and brainpower, you get t= o manage = attacks on fascinating problems. Improvements in the = management = culture will occur slowly, of course. The goal, thoug= h, should = be to force a modification in the hacker dictionary: = "Manager: = One who believes and practices the five hacker attitu= des in = executing fascinating projects (see also hacker)."�= 09; =

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From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:19 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.24.91] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 123FFkPAh0656M25; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:26:33 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst091 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:26:33 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14322 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 11:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA23700; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:25:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B24E303.F81B276B@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:25:55 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Alice Bennett Subject: MS propaganda firm says that lack of sophistication is good for consumers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 123FFkPAh0656M25 The final paragraph says a breakup would benefit MS rivals and earlier they say that "users sophisticated enough to know the difference" can use those competitors products. So ACT opposes a breakup of MS because it would turn users from unsophisticated to sophisticated overnight and their ignorance protects them. (From knowing that alternatives exist presumably) http://www.actonline.org/pubs/ProComp%20Response.pdf -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:19 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.36> [204.68.23.24] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 765FFJgkE0708M28; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:10:30 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nwcst279 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:10:30 GMT Received: from mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA90522 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5A6A8F28758; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:10:08 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B230F3F.1A58AB3F@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:10:07 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Visual Basic invetor is being "erased" from history Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 765FFJgkE0708M28 The "inventor of Visual Basic" is slowly being replaced with web pages claiming that Bill Gates "created" it and gave it to the poor suffering programmers. http://www.fastcompany.com/online/22/nocrash.html http://www.develop.com/dbox/dream.htm http://www.somuch.com/listem.asp?TopicID=4&CategoryID=63 Is being replaced by: It started with the Windows success story. We all know Windows is used on zillions of computers throughout the Universe and possibly beyond. One day Microsoft chairman Bill Gates had an idea - why not create a really easy-to-use programming language? In other words, one real big program you use to create smaller programs? Gates started to think. Should he? Heck, it'd increase: (a) the popularity of Windows, (b) the number of programs on the market, (c) his bank balance. So he did... and it was christened Visual Basic. Everyone say "Arrrr...." http://161.58.186.98/articles/vbtutorial/index2.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:19 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.39> [204.68.23.12] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 709FFJFO10631M19; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:40:52 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Sun, 10 Jun 2001 05:40:52 GMT Received: from mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA67169 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 01:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5A5eOF28649; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:40:24 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B230848.770E130B@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:40:24 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Visual Basic creator thinks "software should be spanked" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 709FFJFO10631M19 MS did not invent the language they are most noted for today. According to Alan Cooper, the problem with software is not the way it works but the way the industry that makes it works. "There's a fundamental problem with how the software business does things," says Cooper, 46, who started his first software company in 1976; who invented Visual Basic and later sold it to Microsoft; and who now heads Cooper Interaction Design, a 30-person firm based in Palo Alto, California. http://www.fastcompany.com/online/22/nocrash.html As a monopoly MS does not need to improve a product except to maintain the monopoly so it has languished since Alan Cooper sold it to them. A half-score years ago, a great Programmer, in whose symbolic shadow we stand invented Visual Basic. This momentous decree came as a great beacon-light of hope to millions of Programmers who had been seared in the flames of withering detail. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of manual memory mangement. But ten years later, we must face the tragic fact that the Programmer is still not free to VB. Ten years later, the life of the Programmer is still sadly crippled by the manacles of dangling pointers and the chains of heap corruption. Ten years later, the Programmer lives on a lonely island of tedium in the midst of a vast ocean of potential productivity. Ten years later, the Programmer is still languishing in the corners of component development and finds himself an exile in his own object model. So we have come here today to dramatize an appalling condition. http://www.develop.com/dbox/dream.htm MS has "advantages" in software development. Don't design for users, just put a product out and listen for complaints. You will probably get it right by release 3.0 (or maybe 4.0, or...) In the mean time tell everyone that you are "customer driven". While you are telling everyone that you are "customer driven" you can also tell them that "It really IS easy to use". If your advertising budget is more than everyone else, you'll eventually convince them. http://cs.ua.edu/407/Class_Notes/Class%2006.pdf From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:19 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.35> [204.68.24.91] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 897FFHueO0413M19; Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:04:40 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nwcst091 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:04:40 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA61235 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 16:04:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA28560; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B212F9E.A0E86F69@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:03:42 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , ksundeen@waddell.com, Jim Manley , Rex Ballard Subject: Linux will redirect the PC focus like DOS changed it away from Apple Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 897FFHueO0413M19 > Law No. 1, the Law of Pull. That which is CHEAPER pulleth more mightily > than that which is easier to use. Ease of use hath nothing to do with > it. (See Law No. 2.) > > Law No. 2, the Law of Push. At a certain point, an arrogant corporation > can alienate its customers so much that the customers, formerly thought > to be insensible sheep, suddenly become capable of amazing feats of > technical prowess. > > Law No. 3, the Relation of Pull and Push. Push magnifies pull. How much? > I realize this isn't very scientific, but I'd say a lot. If you want a > precise number, I'd say 4.8, multiplied by an integer representing the > angle at which the rays of the full moon traverse the northwest corner > of the Great Pyramid of Giza. > >------------------ > > Why did we abandon Apple for those technically challenging DOS systems? > I'll tell you why. First, pull. The DOS/WordPerfect systems were much > cheaper--and by this time, we were buying computers for people even less > computer literate than we were--kids, tenured professors, parents--and > we just couldn't ignore the price differential between Macintosh and PC > systems. Second, push. Frankly, we were really pissed off at Apple. They > had superior technology, but they were sitting on it and gouging us. > They seemed to us to be both arrogant and, increasingly, incapable of > making rational decisions. Then they hired this Pepsi guy to run the > company, and next thing you knew, Jobs was out. Can you spell D-U-M-B? > Subsequent events demonstrated, unfortunately, that we were correct in > our assessment. (Consumers aren't as stupid as corporations think they are.) > We still have no awareness, to speak of, of Linux outside the IT industry. When consumers see preloaded Linux machines being advertised we can expect another "push" as their disillusionment with MS crimes builds. http://noframes.linuxjournal.com/articles/currents/0031.html -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. 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Open Source-onomics: Examining some pseudo-economic arguments about Open Source

By Ganesh Prasad <sashi@easy.com.au>
Posted: ( 2001-05-29 06:24:16 EST by )
While the technical arguments against Linux and Open Source are being gradually silenced, several myths about the economics of Open Source continue to float about, confusing and scaring off people considering these alternative products. Worse, the Open Source community is itself divided on such issues, and is unable to provide a cogent rebuttal. This article is an attempt to set the record straight.

Open Source-onomics: Examining some pseudo-economic argument (Score: 1)
by John Macdonald (jmm@perlwolf.com) on Tuesday, June 05 @ 16:13:15 UTC
Developing open source software is presented here as costly or neutral at best, but in fact it often provides real value to the developer.

Being able to use open source software for the first 90% of a program that a company needs, and only writing the other 10% saves the company 90% of their development costs. Releasing their new 10% as additional free software costs them nothing more.

This means that if proprietary software is reduced to niche marketing, it will have be sold at a carefully limited price or else a potential customer will find it cheaper to extend open source software to cover the niche than to pay the price of the proprietary software. Having just one potential customer choose to develop open source instead of making a purchase will fill a large portion of the entire niche, and make it even harder to sell the proprietary software in the future.

Embrace and extend can be applied to proprietary software too. Microsoft should be scared.

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--------------478C3FFB6B7451E2B1175652-- From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:19 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.43> [204.68.23.22] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 728FFDsOY0992M28; Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:40:50 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nwcst277 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:40:50 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28527 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA11169; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B1BD613.78C69C39@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:40:19 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Microsoft plans to give away Windows licenses to embedded developers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 728FFDsOY0992M28 Of course only people who can ignore the balloon payment of license fees after they have committed to manufacture products using these "free" licenses. What CEO would be stupid enough to commit to a major production cost increase a few weeks or months into its release ? How could they ignore that the cost of MS products continue to rise every few months ? http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=108&aid=12388 -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:19 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.35> [204.68.23.22] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 666FFcDmw0866M22; Sun, 03 Jun 2001 03:12:22 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nwcst277 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Sun, 03 Jun 2001 03:12:22 GMT Received: from mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA76147 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f533BsF07255; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:11:55 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B19AAF5.C1E30368@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:11:49 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley Subject: Gates sees everybody in every industry as a "competitor" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 666FFcDmw0866M22 >Gates once told me, in the early 1990s, that Goldman Sachs was his chief competitor. >Huh? I asked. "Sure," said Gates. "We compete in the same IQ pool as the top investment >banks." I think that blaming the economy on a Machiavellian plot is going too far even for someone like me. http://biz.yahoo.com/fo/010319/aelds9c4_rcfle9rgswo2g_2.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.38> [204.68.23.24] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 015FFauTN0665M24; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:19:13 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by nwcst279 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:19:13 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA79053 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA05413; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:18:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B17F8AD.629D184B@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:18:53 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard CC: "T. Max Devlin" Subject: MS lied about removing "Clippy" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 015FFauTN0665M24 Maybe it was too much work but I think it more likely that some of their spyware would have quit working if "Clippy" was removed. http://www.upsidetoday.com/Executive_Briefing/3b16cf721.html -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.43> [204.68.23.22] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 038FFaRgV0506M09; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:06:21 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nwcst277 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Fri, 01 Jun 2001 17:06:21 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA72834 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA23482; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B17CB78.F26A8359@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:06:00 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Alice Bennett , Michael Goins Subject: Portal costs per year higher after conversion to NT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 038FFaRgV0506M09 Sounds to me like they are searching for employees where the light is brightest. http://www.silicon.com/public/door?REQUNIQ=991412447&6004REQEVENT=&REQINT1=44802&REQSTR1=newsnow -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.38> [204.68.23.77] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 102FFaqvF0813M25; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:47:06 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:47:06 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20966 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA22378; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:46:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B17C6D3.DD57B63A@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:46:11 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Tony Hammitt Subject: The May Netcraft survey is out: it's an Apache world! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 102FFaqvF0813M25 >Around half of the internet's ecommerce sites run on Microsoft-IIS By what means do they get 20.52 as being "half" ? http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-06-01-001-21-OS-MR-SV -- The new Microsoft licenses say: All your data are belong to us. From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.37> [204.68.23.77] by mx02 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 040FeEaiX0454M02; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:08:23 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Thu, 31 May 2001 00:08:23 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA72916 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4V084311345 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 19:08:04 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B158B61.A720B08D@kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:08:01 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Can Microsoft Survive An Electronic Pearl Harbor? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 040FeEaiX0454M02 >While most security experts will privately tell you that Windows is the >Swiss Cheese of security, they use more euphemistic terms when >explaining the same things to people with big check books. After all, >Windows is the dream product of consultants everywhere. It looks >simple at first and then wham; you need to lay out the big bucks for >consultants who swear by the product and smile with big toothy grins. Sounds like an accurate description of many consultants, security and other. http://www.yowusa.com/Archive/May2001/CYBERW_1/cyberw_1.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.35> [204.68.23.21] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 864Fedw7G0025M09; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:58:32 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nwcst276 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Wed, 30 May 2001 22:58:32 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA42372 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4UMwA309711; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:58:10 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B157B02.721F54D4@kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:58:10 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Jonne Thompson Subject: The "software is a natural monopoly" refuted with DOS vs Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 864Fedw7G0025M09 Of course he ignores that the "winner" was chosen and promoted by MS. But Apple was truly toppled by the open PC. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-05-30-011-20-OP-0013 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.23.12] by nmcst150 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 550FedwNt1002M21; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:13:45 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Wed, 30 May 2001 22:13:45 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA57414 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4UMDM309644; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:13:22 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B157081.9DCB9A10@kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:13:21 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: MarketWatch.com to cut over 15 pct of jobs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 550FedwNt1002M21 Selling ads to each other may may not keep adding new suckers outside of booming times. http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010530/n3060184_4.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.35> [204.68.23.21] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 960FedTY50099M28; Wed, 30 May 2001 19:50:56 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nwcst276 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Wed, 30 May 2001 19:50:56 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19925 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4UJoV309309; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:50:31 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B154F07.DDA9D6B5@kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:50:31 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , mgoins@waddell.com Subject: MS puppet org seeks to head off new bundling trial Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 960FedTY50099M28 >The ACT report counters that ProComp's tying argument groundless, because >Media Player 8 is not yet on the market, and thus cannot have sufficient market >share to meet any market power test for an anticompetitive tying arrangement. MS wants to ignore that the tying would be to the desktop where they already have a proven monopoly. Must we endure another five years of foot dragging ? Will the courts ever explicitly tell these greedy criminals that tying anything to the monopoly, even "signed" drivers, is attempted monopolisation and therefor illegal on its face ? http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010530/dcw044.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.23.77] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 692FeCD3B0080M25; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:54:01 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Tue, 29 May 2001 03:54:01 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA66483 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4T3rS330651; Mon, 28 May 2001 22:53:28 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3B131D38.82DCAF7D@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:53:28 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley Subject: Yahoo - STMicroelectronics and MontaVista Software Ally to Put Linux-on-a-Chip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 692FeCD3B0080M25 With this you will be able to buy a real-time OS in a single chip so it can become a true commodity. A network file or print server can be little more that a NIC, this chip, and a disk drive. WinCE cannot maintain monopoly profits when facing that. MS may delay their retreat but they cannot profiteer in the embedded market as freely as they have on the desktop. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010525/lnf001a_2.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:20 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.42> [204.68.24.39] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03) with ESMTP id 881FeuV3L0586M09; Mon, 21 May 2001 21:54:11 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nwcst039 via mtad (34FM.0700.17B.03); Mon, 21 May 2001 14:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27937 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA05803; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:53:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B098E6F.DC426239@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:53:51 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. 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Microsoft and SCO

To: am-info@essential.org
Subject: Microsoft and SCO
From: Kamran <kamran@picturetalk.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:15:02 -0800


Here are the two press releases from Microsoft and SCO. Gives you a good
indication how facts gets distorted by the Microsoft machine.

Kamran...


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Microsoft Releases SCO From Obligation to Include, and Pay Royalties on,
Outdated UNIX Code

November 24, 1997 9:02 AM EST

Action Results from Antitrust Probe and Objection by European Commission

SANTA CRUZ, Calif., Nov. 24 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) has
released SCO (Nasdaq: SCOC) from a contractual obligation to continue
including outdated Microsoft code in future UNIX Systems and paying
royalties on that code. Microsoft acted after the European Commission
agreed with SCO that Microsoft had infringed European competition laws.

SCO's UNIX System software competes with Microsoft's Windows NT in the
rapidly expanding market for server operating systems. SCO believes that
removing Microsoft's outdated code will result in lower development costs
with a positive impact on customers.

"SCO has borne a dual burden," said Doug Michels, SCO's executive vice
president and chief technical officer. "SCO has been paying substantial
royalties to Microsoft. Moreover, we were contractually obligated to ensure
that the code remained fully functional within a constantly evolving
software environment. The engineering costs of providing such quality
assurance are significant, impacting our time to market and reducing the
resources we can apply to product innovation.

"Now that we are legally able to remove the outdated Microsoft code from
both our SCO OpenServer and SCO UnixWare products we will do so as soon as
possible," Michels continued. "We are excited about the positive impact the
lifting of this burden will have on SCO."

    History of the Microsoft-SCO Agreement

The conflict arose from a 1987 agreement that Microsoft entered into with
AT&T, the original owner of the UNIX System technology. The technology was
subsequently acquired in 1993 by Novell, who sold it to SCO in 1995.
Microsoft and AT&T entered into the original agreement to ensure that AT&Ts
UNIX system for the Intel 286 and 386 microprocessors included Microsoft
code to run applications originally developed for Microsoft's XENIX
operating system, a commercial version of the UNIX operating systems
developed for the Intel hardware platform in the early 1980s.

On September 20, 1996, SCO sent a letter to Microsoft requesting
nullification of the provisions of the agreement that violate the European
Union's competition law. The provisions demanded perpetual inclusion of and
payment for outdated Microsoft code in future UNIX Systems developed by
SCO. In that letter, SCO stated that "the inclusion of (Microsoft's)
components or features would be no longer appropriate or commercially
desirable. The steps required to incorporate such features and components
would impose unnecessary cost, lower reliability, add complexity and extend
the development time for any UNIX operating system for modern Intel
processors. Overall, the effect would be to reduce SCO's ability to compete
in the marketplace with the resulting product."

Microsoft declined SCO's request. On January 31, 1997, SCO filed a
complaint with the European Commission, which is chartered to enforce the
laws of the European Union regarding competition. On May 23, the Commission
issued its Statement of Objections, in which the Commission agreed with SCO
that enforcement of the Microsoft/SCO agreement "in perpetuity" constituted
an infringement of the European competition law in that it "impedes
technical progress, and in particular hampers [SCO's] ability to compete
with Microsoft's own products, particularly Windows NT."

"We applaud the European Commission for responding so swiftly to our
complaint," said Steve Sabbath, SCO's vice president, law and corporate
affairs. "We submitted our complaint to the Commission in January, and they
issued their Statement of Objections to Microsoft in May. The Commission
clearly understood the impact that Microsoft's position had on SCO's
ability to freely compete in the marketplace, and acted accordingly. We
appreciate their prompt attention to the needs of an open marketplace.

"As a worldwide organization, SCO sought the assistance of both the
European Commission and the antitrust division of the U.S. Department of
Justice," Sabbath continued. "They worked closely with each other reviewing
the situation, and in this case the European Commission took the lead in
pursuing it."

"Of course," Sabbath added, "Microsoft's lifting of these technical and
financial obligations applies not only in Europe, but in all our global
markets, benefiting SCO customers worldwide."

    About SCO

SCO is a leading provider of system software for business-critical Network
Computing on the Intel hardware platform, offering the world's most popular
UNIX server operating systems, regardless of platform, and the world's
first application broker for Network Computing -- Tarantella. SCO sells and
support its products through a worldwide network of distributors,
resellers, systems integrators, and OEMs. For more information, see SCO's
WWW home page at www.sco.com.

SCO, The Santa Cruz Operation, the SCO logo, UnixWare, SCO OpenServer, and
Tarantella are trademarks or registered trademarks of The Santa Cruz
Operation, Inc. in the USA and other countries. UNIX is a registered
trademark of The Open Group in the US and other countries. All other brand
or product names are or may be trademarks of, and are used to identify
products or services of, their respective owners. SOURCE SCO

� PR Newswire. All rights reserved.


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Microsoft Applauds European Commission Decision to Close Santa Cruz
Operation Matter

November 24, 1997 6:00 AM EST

Decision Upholds Microsoft's Right to Receive Royalties if SCO Utilizes
Microsoft's Technology

REDMOND, Wash., Nov. 24 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corporation today
applauded the decision of the European Commission to close the file and
take no further action on a dispute between Microsoft and Santa Cruz
Operation (SCO) involving a 1987 contract. The Commission's decision
follows progress by Microsoft and SCO to resolve a number of commercial
issues related to the contract, and upholds Microsoft's right to receive
royalty payments from SCO if software code developed by Microsoft is used
in SCO's UNIX products.

"We are gratified that the European Commission rejected SCO's request for
further action and approved our request to close the file on this case,"
said Brad Smith, Microsoft's associate general counsel, international.

"We were prepared to address SCO's concerns as long as our intellectual
property royalty rights could be protected at the same time. The unique
nature of the original 1987 contract made it difficult, but we were able to
find a workable solution that resolves SCO's major concerns and still
protects Microsoft's intellectual property rights," Smith said.

SCO's complaint concerned a contract originally negotiated in 1987 between
Microsoft and AT&T for the development of the UNIX operating system. A
principal goal of that contract was to help AT&T reduce fragmentation in
the UNIX marketplace by creating a single merged UNIX product. To
accomplish this goal, under the contract Microsoft developed for AT&T a new
Intel-compatible version of UNIX that improved the program's performance
and added compatibility with Microsoft's popular XENIX(R) operating system,
which was at the time the most popular version of UNIX on any hardware
platform. When completed in 1988, the merged product created by Microsoft
was named "Product of the Year" by UnixWorld Magazine.

To prevent further UNIX fragmentation and at AT&T's behest, the contract
obligated the parties to ensure that any future versions of UNIX they
developed for the Intel platform would be compatible with this new version
of UNIX.

As compensation for Microsoft's technology and for its agreement to give up
its leadership position with XENIX, AT&T agreed to pay Microsoft a set
royalty for the future copies of UNIX it shipped. AT&T subsequently
transferred its rights and obligations under the contract to Novell, which
transferred the contract to SCO in 1995.

The code developed by Microsoft under the 1987 contract continues to play
an important role in SCO's OpenServer UNIX product. This includes
improvements Microsoft made in memory management and system performance,
development of a multi-step bootstrap sequence, numerous bug fixes, and the
addition of new functions originally developed for XENIX and still
documented today by SCO for use by current application developers.

SCO complained to the EC that the provisions in the 1987 contract
restricted the manner in which it could develop a future version of UNIX
(code-named "Gemini") for the 64-bit generation of Intel processors. After
reviewing the matter, Microsoft modified the contract to waive SCO's
backward compatibility and development obligations, but insisted on
continued payment of royalties for any UNIX versions that include
Microsoft's technology. Microsoft then requested that the Commission close
the file on the case and take no further action, and the Commission agreed
to do so. SCO therefore withdrew its complaint.

Microsoft's Smith said there were basically three issues in the contract
that needed to be resolved: (1) the backward compatibility requirement, (2)
a development requirement designed to reduce UNIX fragmentation under which
each new version of UNIX would be built on the previous versions, and (3)
royalty payment obligations for Microsoft's intellectual property rights.

"Microsoft was willing to waive the backward compatibility and development
requirements, which were included in the 1987 agreement at AT&T's behest,
but we needed to preserve our intellectual property royalty rights, which
are fundamental to the software industry as a whole," he noted.
"Unfortunately, the old contract was written in a way that made it
difficult to separate the development requirement from the royalty rights,
but we were able to find a solution that gave SCO what it wanted but
protected our intellectual property rights."

Microsoft first learned of SCO's complaint to the European Commission in
late March. In a May 22 submission to European Commission officials,
Microsoft affirmed that it was willing to waive the backward compatibility
requirement in the contract, as long as Microsoft's right to receive
royalty payment for use of its copyrighted technology was preserved. On May
26, before receiving Microsoft's submission, the Commission provided
Microsoft with a Statement of Objections. This is a preliminary step in the
EC process that identifies issues for further deliberation and provides a
company an opportunity to present its position in person at an internal
hearing. Microsoft reiterated its willingness to waive the backward
compatibility requirements in an August 1 filing with the European
Commission. Microsoft also requested that the Commission hold a hearing, so
that Microsoft could document the various ways in which Microsoft's
intellectual property is contained in SCO's present UNIX products.

On November 4, after discussions with SCO were unsuccessful in resolving
the matter, Microsoft informed SCO that it was unilaterally waiving the
compatibility and development requirements of the contract, but retaining
the requirement that SCO pay a royalty to Microsoft when it ships product
that utilizes Microsoft's intellectual property rights. Upon receiving
Microsoft's waiver, the Commission canceled the hearing, which was
scheduled for November 13. Despite Microsoft's action to address SCO's
concerns, SCO continued to ask for further action by the European
Commission. However, the Commission rejected SCO's request and decided to
close the case. SCO therefore withdrew its complaint.

"We're pleased that we were able to resolve these issues to the
satisfaction of everyone involved, and we're particularly pleased that the
EC upheld our right to collect royalties for the use of our technology.
This principle is fundamental to the entire software industry," said Smith.

Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in
software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of
products and services for business and personal use, each designed with the
mission of making it easier and more enjoyable for people to take advantage
of the full power of personal computing every day.

Microsoft and XENIX are either registered trademarks or trademarks of
Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries. Other
products and company names mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their
respective owners. SOURCE Microsoft Corp.

� PR Newswire. All rights reserved.

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I will try to be more careful. http://www.zdii.com/industry_list.asp?mode=news&doc_id=ZE504530&pic=Y -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.42> [204.68.24.38] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 280FeBwih0103M24; Wed, 02 May 2001 22:08:33 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nwcst038 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Wed, 02 May 2001 22:08:33 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06570 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 18:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA26295 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 17:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AF0852C.3BF97A47@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:07:40 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: RedHat sales nearly double last year in spite of economic downturn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 280FeBwih0103M24 http://www.zdii.com/industry_list.asp?mode=news&doc_id=ZE504530&pic=Y -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.39> [204.68.23.21] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 521FeBsuN0081M09; Wed, 02 May 2001 18:20:14 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by nwcst276 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Wed, 02 May 2001 18:20:14 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA89343 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA12336; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:19:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AF04FBD.1469AAA2@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:19:41 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" , Jim Manley , Carl Mayer CC: Dave Link Subject: MS has the ability to include "deactivate" code into Service Packs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 521FeBsuN0081M09 The claim published in HardOCP last week that "it is only when a PID is trying to be cleared on several hundred/thousand configurations that Microsoft would even care" isn't plausible, however. One of the areas where Microsoft perceives major revenue loss is small business. Here, there are plenty of companies running, say, 20 installations on a single product key. The "several hundred/thousand" level would miss these people entirely, and would certainly miss all "casual copying." So it seems more probable that even if Microsoft doesn't set the level at 20 or below, it will crank it down towards this once it's sure the system is running properly. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18683.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.23.12] by nmcst150 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 329FeauPJ0005M21; Tue, 01 May 2001 20:15:09 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Tue, 01 May 2001 20:15:09 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA99139 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA27134; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:14:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AEF1937.55837A7F@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:14:47 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , Jim Manley Subject: Linux processes spawn faster than Windows threads Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 329FeauPJ0005M21 >The next talk I attended was Jeremy Allison's Win32/Linux Porting >session. This was a great summary of all the pain that modern >programmers go through taking their Win32 applications and porting them >to a Linux environment. And Jeremy intends to publish his material one >way or another very soon. I really enjoyed his non-biased view on the >good parts and the bad parts of each platform, including the arcane >factoid that Linux processes start faster than Windows threads. If you >have any interest in doing a solid port of your Win32 program, >you really need to take a look at his slides. http://www.oreilly.com/news/osconf00_day4.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.42> [204.68.23.77] by nmcst150 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 531FDdP5N0006M21; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:56:13 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:56:13 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA86212 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA15746; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AED8B06.62E71091@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:55:50 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Corporations will have the right to censor web sites if ruling stands Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 531FDdP5N0006M21 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/18590.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.38> [204.68.23.24] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 989FDdo5N0331M28; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:56:13 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by nwcst279 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:56:13 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20264 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA11149; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AED7CF6.7CF915F5@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:55:50 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" , Tony Hammitt , Carl Mayer , Jim Manley , abennett@waddell.com, Michael Goins , gsharp@waddell.com, Rob Arnold Subject: The Register sees XP having major problems with lots of hardware Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 989FDdo5N0331M28 Get ready for the old 'reformat and reinstall' of Win9x with the added inconvenience of forced activation or registration or whatever they decide to call getting Redmond's permission to reinstall, with their attempts to sell you service packs and upgrades which can break more of your third party software. They really are intent on nobody using any hardware or software which has not been "approved" by Redmond, meaning that they get a percentage of every sale. After this we can look forward to them charging a percentage of every transaction that each PC is involved in and, since they will be accounting for every dollar anyway, they can even file your taxes for you for an appropriate fee of course. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18597.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.39> [204.68.24.38] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 468FDdoZR0356M09; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:25:17 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by nwcst038 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:25:17 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA79537 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:25:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA08717; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:24:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AED75B4.883FB5BA@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:24:52 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" CC: Tony Hammitt , Jim Manley , Carl Mayer , Michael Goins , Rob Arnold , Will Babbitt Subject: MS offers a bounty for machines requested without an OS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 468FDdoZR0356M09 This reinstates the per-processor scam which they agreed to stop doing in 1994. They will probably claim that this is not a "contract" and therefore is not covered by that ban. Who in the DOJ should be alerted to this ? http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/18589.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.42> [204.68.23.24] by nmcst150 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 512FDAsZm0028M21; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:25:12 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nwcst279 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:25:12 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA36369 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA09392; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:24:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AE9B970.6E0E6A90@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:24:48 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Interview with a designer of a $200 Linux box for India Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 512FDAsZm0028M21 OC: How important is free software generally in India? Simputer: Free/open software is critical for all developing countries. Access to sophisticated software will be impossible without this model. Second, customization and creation of software to meet local requirements (in local languages) is not going to happen without free/open software.Second, the orchestrated campaign to malign people from developing countries as 'software pirates' will loose its edge with the availability of quality free/open source software. OC: Has the Bangalore Declaration had any practical effect? Simputer: The only practical effect of the Bangalore Declaration, as far as we know, is the Simputer! OC: There seems to be a possible tension between the use and creation of free software and designs, and the goal of development of an indigenous IT industry. How do you see the relationship developing? Simputer: We see no conflict, but synergy. Linux has shown that software capabilities have only increased with the availability and use of Unix in the early days of computing in India and more recently with Linux. By making available the Simputer hardware under SGPL, we believe that the barrier to entry to hardware system development will be lowered. ====================== Such efforts to bypass the WinTel duopoly have the potential of getting ahead of the "developed" world by not having money siphoned off to the US. http://opencollector.org/cgi-bin/news/more.pl?story=988155611&amp;display=threaded From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.23.12] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 240FDyTI60101M19; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:35:01 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:35:01 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA56337 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA18413; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:33:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AE72698.C709817D@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:33:44 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Tony Hammitt Subject: Collaborative approach lessens costs in more than just software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 240FDyTI60101M19 "DaimlerChrysler's Net Designs" Business 2.0 (04/17/01) Vol. 6, No. 8, P. 26; Holstein, William J. DaimlerChrysler's Chrysler division intends for its FastCar online design initiative to halve the amount of time required to design a new car--from roughly four years to two--and save a "huge" amount of money in the process. The tradition-bound automotive industry is particularly ripe for e-business transformation and Chrysler especially so, given that it is currently losing a huge amount of money, has laid off some 26,000 employees, and, of the Big Three automakers, is the most dependent on outside suppliers. FastCar, which is currently being used in the design of a new large car scheduled to be in showrooms by the fall of 2003, leverages the Internet to drastically improve communication between the many people and departments involved in the design of a car. If a stamping engineer, for example, is privy to the design of the car's bodywork from the earliest stages, he or she can offer input as to what shapes are or are not technically or financially feasible, shaving large chunks of time and cost from the process. Considering the average Chrysler has about 12,000 moving parts, each with its own unique design requirements, it is not hard to understand how a Web-based design environment such as FastCar could be hugely beneficial. "In the first 20 percent of the project, you commit to 80 percent of the cost," explains the director of the University of Michigan's Office for the Study of Automotive Transportation, Michael Flynn. "It's not really that the design activity is so expensive, but it's the commitment of all those downstream costs." It is estimated that Web-based design systems such as FastCar would remove about $1,500 from the cost to produce each car. Also, the flexibility enabled by such a system would provide the added benefit of effectively extending the design process, allowing Chrysler to be more adaptable to changing tastes, trends, fashions, regulations, etc. A major challenge faced by Chrysler and other automakers is the sheer complexity of their business and the fact that, while already popular in other industries, online collaboration tools have never been tested in such an environment. http://www.acm.org/technews/articles/2001-3/0423m.html#item16 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.38> [204.68.23.23] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 185FDwR7P0307M09; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:58:17 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by nwcst278 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:58:17 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12636 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12332; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:57:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AE46CF7.2819AB1@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:57:11 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Some Suffer Tax Hangovers From Microsoft Option Spree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 185FDwR7P0307M09 Microsoft seems to have gotten Salmon, Smith Barney to mislead its own employees so its own tax burden and satisfy its institutional investors...(could those "grants" be from The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation ?) Lena Diethelm, an enrolled agent at the tax preparation firm Numbershuffler in Palo Alto, Calif., said she had heard many similar stories from workers in Silicon Valley and faults brokers for urging employees to borrow to pay taxes. "I think these practices are predatory," Ms. Diethelm said. "The brokerage firms have conflicts of interest, but the employees don't understand the relationship the companies have with each other. They don't understand the risks, and the brokers minimize the risks." Larry Feinstein, a partner at the law firm of Bortman & Feinstein in Seattle, has a handful of Microsoft employees as clients who borrowed against their shares to pay taxes. "These are middle-management people that all of a sudden have to file bankruptcy," he said. "The brokers are more than happy to loan you the money and charge interest on it." "The stockbroker said one reason to exercise the options was because if I got hit by a bus, my wife would have no access to them," the programmer said. Only recently, when the couple reread the option plan did they find that the options would have gone to her if he had died. The Salomon spokeswoman said: "We don't comment on anonymous allegations." The Microsoft programmer now acknowledges that it was a mistake to rely on his broker to the degree that he did and not to read the documents before deciding to exercise the options. Like Salomon, Microsoft stood to benefit when its employees exercised their options. The company gets a tax deduction equal to the spread on which the employee pays income taxes. In fact, the tax break has greatly reduced and in some cases eliminated tax bills at profitable corporations like Microsoft, Cisco Systems and Dell Computer in recent years. And when workers exercise options, they help their employer in another way, by reducing the number of options outstanding. Around the time the programmer and his wife say they were encouraged to exercise options, Microsoft was under pressure from institutional investors to reduce its options outstanding. By 1999, the number of options that Microsoft had set aside for grants had ballooned. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/18/technology/18BANK.html -- Buying back shares is a way MS has used to pump up its stock price but unless its shares rise dramatically it now faces 8.4 billion in already committed buybacks. They are going to find it harder to cook the books into hiding that expense next quarter. "If you use buybacks as a primary method of growing the share price, that's a fool's strategy," EMC Chief Joseph Tucci says. Over the past 2 years, companies made 3,560 announcements to buy back shares, according to CommScan/ComputaSoft Research. While not all followed through, many that did often find they overpaid vs. today's prices. Microsoft must pay part of an $8.4 billion put-option liability as early as this month. Microsoft manages the risk because not all the puts expire at the same time, a spokeswoman says. Some aren't due until March 2003, and the stock could rise by then. Microsoft can pay in stock and use the money it routinely spends buying back shares. http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/invest/2001-03-26-buybacks.htm -- MS holds employee wages down by using stock options instead and then shows less expense so that their earnings look better... Microsoft for years has issued massive amounts of stock options to employees in lieu of wages - accounting in some years, he says, for as much as 75 percent of total compensation. Because the options cost the company nothing - indeed, they even earn the company tax deductions - there has been no charge against earnings. Because of the savings in wage costs, Microsoft's earnings have appeared stronger than they are. Parish asserts that if Microsoft had paid wages and taxes the same way as most other corporations, it would have fallen $10 billion into the red in 1999 instead of showing the $7.8 billion in profits that it reported. Since earnings drive stock performance, investors in Microsoft's stock - including a large number of pension funds - have been grossly misled. "It's a financial pyramid scheme," Parish says. Because the Microsoft pattern has been followed by many other high-tech companies, he argues, it has destabilized not only the stock market but the U.S. economy. http://www.billparish.com/20010413portlandtribune.html -- Is AOL about to implode like amazon.com ? Will MS biggest competitor soon declare bankruptcy ? Bill Parish writes... As an investment advisor I am continually surprised that many journalists do not accept the notion that there is only one capital market. There is no "tech" market or "telecomm" market. Capital flows to all markets and therefore Pacific Gas & Electric competes directly with Microsoft and AOL for capital. The utilities were basically desperate to increase their stock prices in order to compete in a new era of deregulation and therefore had no choice but to enter Microsoft's pyramid game, even though they could not hope to survive. And later this... What Time Warner management has basically done is fold a debt laden marginally profitable organization with declining cash flow and significant infrastructure upgrade requirements into a company highly sensitive to cash flow. AOL is now learning, as Amazon.com has already, that Microsoft's pyramid scheme is indeed structured to ensure its demise. To summarize... Please note that Parish and Company was the first to clearly explain and document that Time Warner had indeed stuck AOL with $16.2 billion in back taxes. It is only fair to quote this site, even though this fact can be externally verified. http://www.billparish.com/20010404americaonline.html -- From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.35> [204.68.23.12] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 258FDVThl0270M05; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:33:37 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:33:37 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA95201 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3MJXH304204; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:33:17 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AE331FC.212E92AE@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:33:16 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julie Murphy Subject: Love at first byte: Personal-ad Web sites booming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 258FDVThl0270M05 Sounds like the newspaper business is headed for hard times as they lose another source of revenue. I wonder what makes The New York Times think it can fight the current trend ? I saw a story this week that IBM, Microsoft and a third firm are about to create an online version of what amounts to the business yellow pages. Lots of changes are coming because online makes information providing sevices less expensive. http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2001/04/20/front_page/DATE20.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.39> [204.68.23.12] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 505FDVFbB0220M05; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:27:01 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:27:01 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18690 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3M5Pc327181; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:25:38 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AE26B51.3D978CFD@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:25:37 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: waddell@kc.rr.com, abennett@waddell.com, Carl Mayer CC: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Chartered says fab usage will soon fall below 50% Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 505FDVFbB0220M05 This could well be a leading indicator that bad economic news will continue till at least fall. http://www.ebnonline.com/digest/story/OEG20010419S0088 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.43> [204.68.23.12] by mx04 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 575FDVFi60975M04; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:08:57 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nwcst267 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 05:08:57 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16264 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3M58a327156; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:08:36 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AE26752.B8FDCF9@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:08:34 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Tony Hammitt Subject: Price war appears inevitable between Intel and AMD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 575FDVFi60975M04 As the CPU cost becomes a smaller fraction of total system cost MS software looms into view on even more radar scopes. Soon, as they find their license cost avoidance loopholes closed in ever more restrictive contracts, entire projects will be beyond what customers are willing to pay and anger at the naked greed shown by Bill's minions will make MS even less popular. We will know the collapse is pending when IT managers are gleefully spreading knowledge of loopholes faster than MS can renegotiate the contracts. http://www.ebnonline.com/digest/story/OEG20010420S0066 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.38> [204.68.24.91] by nmcst150 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 141FDVeLS0995M21; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:11:44 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by nwcst091 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:11:44 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA43304 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3M4BQ327042 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:11:26 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AE259EC.887AD733@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:11:25 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Ganesh Prasad: Open Source-onomics: Examining some pseudo-economic arguments about Open Source Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 141FDVeLS0995M21 An examination and refutation of several FUD lines diguised as economics. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-04-12-006-20-OP-BZ-CY From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.24.91] by nm199 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 559FDVeDL0010M09; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:03:12 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst091 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 04:03:12 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA20923 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3M42k327028; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:02:47 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AE257E5.1F502BDC@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:02:45 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley Subject: Oracle & Open Source: Gazing at the Crystal Ball Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 559FDVeDL0010M09 Open Source will eventually push higher into the range where Oracle has reigned like Linux is encroaching on Sun territory. Sun is trying to slow the price erosion by selling a model which is priced about where you would expect Linux running on PC hardware to be. Perhaps Oracle will produce a 'lite' version to compete without lowering the price of their main product. The lower functionality of the low priced models will not actually compete so they will only postpone the inevitable. Open Source is bringing competition and innovation back to software. http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oracleopen_0401.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.35> [204.68.23.24] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 134FDTTB10812M19; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:01:52 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nwcst279 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:01:52 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA84280 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA25329; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:01:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AE08785.DC05CCED@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:01:25 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard CC: Jim Manley , Michael Goins Subject: Why They Whine -- Our children are being used against us Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 134FDTTB10812M19 http://www.mothering.com/SpecialArticles/Issue97/whine.htm -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.23.23] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 890FDTsIY0919M19; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:34:50 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst278 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:34:50 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA35268 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA23303; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:34:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AE08133.61A01E83@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:34:27 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard CC: Jim Manley , Carl Mayer , Michael Goins , Tony Hammitt Subject: John C. Dvorak thinks MS may be cutting off its own air supply Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 890FDTsIY0919M19 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/comment/0,5859,2710258,00.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com <216.156.2.40> [204.68.23.22] by mx04 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08) with ESMTP id 537FDTqQX0739M04; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:42:23 GMT Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nwcst277 via mtad (34FM.0700.17.08); Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:42:23 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA43236 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:42:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA15666; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3AE066B7.7E17B3C2@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:41:27 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: The Register agrees that XP driver "signing" is an attempt at extending the monopoly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 537FDTqQX0739M04 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18391.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 640FDRVuj0043M05; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 21:20:35 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA46999 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA06081; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:20:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADE050C.6CC20765@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:20:12 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Wind River Systems plans to keep secrets while claiming Open Source Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 640FDRVuj0043M05 Wind River seems to be after the buzz of Open Source but wants to maintain the secrecy which has allowed them to lock in customers. I don't know of them having monopoly power but they seem to want to be able to monopolize. http://www.ecompany.com/articles/web/0,1653,11386,00.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by mx04 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 211FDRRXA1323M04; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:23:26 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04891 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA19029; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:23:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADDCD7B.1C2AC020@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:23:07 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: An insurance policy against hacker-inflicted damage costs 25 per cent more for companies using Windows NT. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 211FDRRXA1323M04 Insurance companies assess risks by the actual numbers not marketing hype. They do not appear to buy the MS line that "our software is more secure because fewer people get a chance to look at it to find exploits". I wonder how things like the maze traversal in Excel and the "Netscape programmers are weenies" stuff makes it to the field if they are being extra vigilant for their customers ? Just because a MS programmer put it on the CD does not mean that he had our best interests foremost in his mind. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18324.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 289FDRPxp0132M22; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:49:41 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA82565 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA11966; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:49:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADDB777.ECAA704F@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:49:11 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , john.lettice@theregister.co.uk Subject: MS intends to frighten customers into only using "signed" drivers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 289FDRPxp0132M22 It is the AARD code for destroying DRDOS manifest in production code. These users will however also be extremely scared by the unsigned driver experience, which consists of big warnings and is clearly intended to discourage use of unsigned drivers, to direct users to Windows Update, and to hardware that does have signed drivers. That puts massive power in Microsoft's hands, and means hardware manufacturers will have to keep very close to Microsoft development if they're going to avoid a tech support hammering. So MS intends to use this to get all the hardware manufacturers to be under their control which will enable them to keep hardware prices from falling as fast as they would in a competitive market and the consumers will pay the higher prices without knowing. MS seems to "innovate" new ways to gain monopoly control of more and more of the entire economy as time goes on. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18343.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 480FDqwcM0184M03; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:02:38 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01504 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA09598; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:02:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADCBD68.18EB7014@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:02:16 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Carl Mayer Subject: Use Real-Time extensions to turn Linux into a radio transmitter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 480FDqwcM0184M03 http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3239582376.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 879FDqV8A1389M25; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:59:26 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA99501 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA09474 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADCBCA9.55751748@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:05 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Linux cost savings to be had in electronic messaging Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 879FDqV8A1389M25 Fertile Ground for Cost Savings - which discusses how a company can find extensive savings by changing their messaging platforms to Linux: http://www.bynari.net/BMC.pdf In other news, in testing of Bynari's Insight Server on the IBM zSeries and S/390 platforms on TurboLinux for IBM mainframes, stress testing occurred with a load average of 85 and the Linux server handled the volumes with a load average of .6 . The tests occurred April 16th in Tampa Bay, Florida. The Linux server scaled in excess of Enterprise requirements. http://lwn.net/daily/bynari-wp.php3 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 014FDqVYL0488M03; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:50:11 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18755 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA09107 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:49:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADCBA7E.437B936A@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:49:50 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Low-cost Indian Linux PC to hit market soon - Tech News - CNET.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 014FDqVYL0488M03 The third world is about to leap over the digital divide. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5640577.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 429FDqVdN1168M03; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:29:13 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA43493 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA08103; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:28:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADCB594.6032ED5E@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:28:52 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: WeirdX -- Pure Java X Window System Server under GPL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 429FDqVdN1168M03 Probably not a speed demon but it has the right license. http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/ -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 836FDqVZ40026M28; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:25:55 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04796 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA07914; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADCB4CE.12BE52A6@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:25:34 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Linux can preserve your data longer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 836FDqVZ40026M28 An excerpt from his page: Linux and Obsolescence (or 'Old files never die...') A few months ago, I saw a page by a lab workstation with an archaic, 8" floppy disk taped to it, and the message "Always transfer your files; Formats change, and you never know when you won't be able to read them anymore." I think most of us, at one time or another, have had to deal with compatibility problems in physical media. More often, though, incompatible data file formats present the big headaches. Most Linux software has some very substantial built-in safeguards to guard against this sort of software obsolescence. Many programs use text files to store data, and even those using complex formats (like gnumeric and SciGraphica) use XML, which itself is text. Although in some cases it may be inconvenient to parse through text formats to get data into a newer version of a given application, common editors like vi and emacs both support regular expressions to simplify large-scale data taming. Of course, combining the power of stream editors like sed and awk with simple shell scripts can also help make short work of large data tasks. >From a system perspective, Linux has several advantages over most commercial systems to ward off obsolescence. The Linux kernel maintains the full range of filesystem types (minix, msdos, vfat, hfs, ntfs, ext2, iso9660, reiserfs and ext3 - I'm sure I've missed some!) so data and other files stored previously on more mature filesystems are easily read by modern Linux workstations. I'm aware of many labs that use rather old DOS-based programs for some analyses as either nothing more recent currently exists for other platforms, or the equivalents are not yet known. In these cases, it is possible to use an emulator (like plex86) to run these applications. Also, hardware support for 5.25" floppy drives or other devices is still available, so reading the files is still possible. Of course, combining simple shell scripts and two older drives on an older machine, one could make shorter work of a large pile of ancient floppies. Whether files are copied directly or imaged using dd, they can be burned to CD for future reference or later conversion to other formats. Finally, Roberto Di Cosmo presents an interesting perspective paper on computing in Europe and the quality of some typical commercial computing tools http://www.netaction.org/msoft/cybersnare.html. Dr. Di Cosmo presents some very topical arguments that are valid even today, despite the article now being over four years old. http://www.seul.org/sci/seul-sci8.html -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:22 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 263FDqTCy1433M03; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:28:24 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA99974 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA29391; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:28:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADC9941.80938D5A@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:28:01 -0500 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. 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Ganesh Pra= sad - Subject: Wrong, and for the foll= owing reasons ( Apr 17, 2001, 01:02:42 )

A superficial glance at the relative market share and technical feature= s of Open Source vs. commercial databases today may lead one to the hasty= conclusion that commercial databases will continue to rule. However, the= re are many reasons why the tables could be turned in as little as 3 year= s.

These reasons (and they are mutually reinforcing) are progress, adequacy,= economy and network efficiencies. Let's analyse them separately firs= t.

Progress: Remember the arguments against Linux two years ag= o, before kernel 2.2? Linux wasn't scalable beyond two CPUs, it didn&= #39;t support large files or large amounts of RAM, it didn't have a j= ournalling filesystem, it didn't support USB, etc., etc. Most analyst= s then wrote off Linux for those reasons. What do people think now?

Similarly, PostgreSQL doesn't support replication, its query support = isn't as extensive as Oracle's, PL/pgSQL isn't as rich as Ora= cle's PL/SQL, it doesn't have very good graphical administration = tools, etc., etc. Do you think things will remain the same in 3 years? Po= stgreSQL 7.1, released just last week, fixed several deficiencies of 7.0 = (2k row limit removed, outer joins supported, better support for complex = queries, more performance improvements and better admin tools). Things wi= ll only get better.

Adequacy: It's often remarked that 90% of the market is= at the low end. That's why more Toyotas are sold than BMWs, though B= MWs are arguably "better". More people use products that are good enough = and affordable than use the very best products. With the release of Postg= reSQL 7.1 last week, PostgreSQL's claim to being "good enough" just g= ot a lot stronger. More people will find PostgreSQL to be adequate for th= eir requirements. Yes, Oracle or DB2 may still be "better", but how will = they fare against a "good enough" product that is free?

Economy: PostgreSQL will always remain free of charge. That= 's not likely to be true of Oracle, DB2 or SQLServer. Those products = may be given away in some special deals (sales promotion), but they'r= e unlikely to remain free. When features converge, price becomes a= n important issue, and PostgreSQL has a permanent advantage over its comm= ercial rivals.

Network efficiencies: Internet Explorer has had an enviable= distribution channel, -- the Windows CD --, which has led to its ubiquit= y. PostgreSQL has an equally potent distribution channel -- the Linux CD.= PostgreSQL will penetrate every organisation penetrated by Linux. When a= good enough database comes free with your (free) OS, why hunt around for= another one with gratuitous extra features that you need to pay for?

Now put these four factors together. A free database that is good enough = for most users and keeps getting better, comes to you free with your OS. = How long can you resist?

Prof. Soparkar's argument seems to imply that customers are fools. I = respectfully disagree.

Ganesh Prasad

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Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: MS may have fired W2K marketing head Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 135FDBFKa0943M22 I find the timing of the announcement that sales are not meeting expectations and then the leaving three week later interesting. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4419801-0.html Dec 15 2000 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2665612,00.html Jan 9 2001 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4419801-0.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 135FDBFKa0943M22; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 05:36:00 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA91035 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f325ZTL01401; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:35:29 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AC80FA1.67209EE2@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:35:29 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: MS may have fired W2K marketing head Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 135FDBFKa0943M22 I find the timing of the announcement that sales are not meeting expectations and then the leaving three week later interesting. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4419801-0.html Dec 15 2000 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2665612,00.html Jan 9 2001 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4419801-0.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 155FDBFZP0671M03; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 05:25:15 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA94897 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f325OlL01383; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:24:47 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AC80D1E.9414578C@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:24:46 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Microsoft avoids layoff news by selling subsidiary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 155FDBFZP0671M03 Getting away from the parts which would require continual updates to remain in compliance as laws change. (Avoiding actual work) http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/hottopics/microsoft/027496.htm MS is trying to cozy up to the media giants again... http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/hottopics/microsoft/018977.htm MS found another sucker to do the legwork of making their software into a success only to have the ideas stolen to become another MS product in two or three years. http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/hottopics/microsoft/011450.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 155FDBFZP0671M03; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 05:25:15 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA94897 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f325OlL01383; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:24:47 -0500 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AC80D1E.9414578C@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:24:46 -0500 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Microsoft avoids layoff news by selling subsidiary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 155FDBFZP0671M03 Getting away from the parts which would require continual updates to remain in compliance as laws change. (Avoiding actual work) http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/hottopics/microsoft/027496.htm MS is trying to cozy up to the media giants again... http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/hottopics/microsoft/018977.htm MS found another sucker to do the legwork of making their software into a success only to have the ideas stolen to become another MS product in two or three years. http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/hottopics/microsoft/011450.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 497FcdRZ70454M24; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:25:58 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12485 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA16762; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:24:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AC4C168.1FD2BBA3@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:24:56 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: MS To Users: Pay Up > Mar. 29, 2001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 497FcdRZ70454M24 M$ wants a percentage of every use of every computer. That prevents novel uses by driving the cost up. http://www.internetweek.com/newslead01/lead032901.htm -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 497FcdRZ70454M24; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:25:58 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12485 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA16762; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:24:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AC4C168.1FD2BBA3@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:24:56 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: MS To Users: Pay Up > Mar. 29, 2001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 497FcdRZ70454M24 M$ wants a percentage of every use of every computer. That prevents novel uses by driving the cost up. http://www.internetweek.com/newslead01/lead032901.htm -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.njd.xo.com [216.156.2.34] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 532FcTV7j1119M25; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:58:35 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.njd.xo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA72639 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01213; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7D272.875466B3@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:10 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: FreeDevelopers.Net``The Community is the Company'' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 532FcTV7j1119M25 The major innovation of the FreeDevelopers structure is that it inverts the traditional developer-marketer axis, so that the community of software developers controls the marketers. The proprietary structure has it reversed -- the corporate marketers have been controlling the developers. ===================== I wonder if this will succeed. http://209.249.55.157/company/CommCo/ -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.njd.xo.com [216.156.2.34] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 532FcTV7j1119M25; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:58:35 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.njd.xo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA72639 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01213; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7D272.875466B3@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:10 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: FreeDevelopers.Net``The Community is the Company'' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 532FcTV7j1119M25 The major innovation of the FreeDevelopers structure is that it inverts the traditional developer-marketer axis, so that the community of software developers controls the marketers. The proprietary structure has it reversed -- the corporate marketers have been controlling the developers. ===================== I wonder if this will succeed. http://209.249.55.157/company/CommCo/ -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.njd.xo.com [216.156.2.34] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 532FcTV7j1119M25; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:58:35 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.njd.xo.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA72639 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA01213; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7D272.875466B3@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:10 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: FreeDevelopers.Net``The Community is the Company'' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 532FcTV7j1119M25 The major innovation of the FreeDevelopers structure is that it inverts the traditional developer-marketer axis, so that the community of software developers controls the marketers. The proprietary structure has it reversed -- the corporate marketers have been controlling the developers. ===================== I wonder if this will succeed. http://209.249.55.157/company/CommCo/ -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 755FcTVYL0467M28; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:11 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27219 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA00594; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7D07E.4BEC0A63@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Carl Mayer , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Microsoft's Ballmer plots course for embedded Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 755FcTVYL0467M28 When faced with actual competition M$ hides the iron fist back inside the velvet glove. How many of the developers who are enticed by their giveaways will have their license costs skyrocket if they are a success ? Makes me think of the old story of the sheep and the jackal discussing what is for dinner. http://www.electronicstimes.com/story/technology/OEG20010208S0006 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 755FcTVYL0467M28; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:11 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27219 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA00594; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7D07E.4BEC0A63@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Carl Mayer , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Microsoft's Ballmer plots course for embedded Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 755FcTVYL0467M28 When faced with actual competition M$ hides the iron fist back inside the velvet glove. How many of the developers who are enticed by their giveaways will have their license costs skyrocket if they are a success ? Makes me think of the old story of the sheep and the jackal discussing what is for dinner. http://www.electronicstimes.com/story/technology/OEG20010208S0006 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 755FcTVYL0467M28; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 21:50:11 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27219 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA00594; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7D07E.4BEC0A63@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Carl Mayer , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Microsoft's Ballmer plots course for embedded Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 755FcTVYL0467M28 When faced with actual competition M$ hides the iron fist back inside the velvet glove. How many of the developers who are enticed by their giveaways will have their license costs skyrocket if they are a success ? Makes me think of the old story of the sheep and the jackal discussing what is for dinner. http://www.electronicstimes.com/story/technology/OEG20010208S0006 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 044FcTTi61039M22; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:08:57 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA92731 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18141; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7AA91.92C8AEAC@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:01 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Linux Today - Tux the Impaler? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 044FcTTi61039M22 The unexpected downturn of the economy has everyone pointing fingers. M$ has the view that competitive under pricing is both un American and destructive. They don't like the "services as software" crowd where competitors, who collaboratively build openly shared freeware, then use it as the basis for delivering fee based services. M$ prefers the "software as a service" approach, where the platform provider can extract a vig from all participants. Salon Magazine politicizes the downturn, blaming old economy campaign contributions to Bush for the collapse of the new "highly productive" economy. And The Economist finds the downturn explanation as a high tech ponzi scheme having run out of suckers. ===================== I think the Economist is closer to the truth and that taking the money siphon away from M$ will start the next boom. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-20-003-20-OP-CY -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 044FcTTi61039M22; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:08:57 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA92731 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18141; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7AA91.92C8AEAC@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:01 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Linux Today - Tux the Impaler? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 044FcTTi61039M22 The unexpected downturn of the economy has everyone pointing fingers. M$ has the view that competitive under pricing is both un American and destructive. They don't like the "services as software" crowd where competitors, who collaboratively build openly shared freeware, then use it as the basis for delivering fee based services. M$ prefers the "software as a service" approach, where the platform provider can extract a vig from all participants. Salon Magazine politicizes the downturn, blaming old economy campaign contributions to Bush for the collapse of the new "highly productive" economy. And The Economist finds the downturn explanation as a high tech ponzi scheme having run out of suckers. ===================== I think the Economist is closer to the truth and that taking the money siphon away from M$ will start the next boom. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-20-003-20-OP-CY -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 044FcTTi61039M22; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:08:57 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA92731 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA18141; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7AA91.92C8AEAC@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:01 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: Linux Today - Tux the Impaler? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 044FcTTi61039M22 The unexpected downturn of the economy has everyone pointing fingers. M$ has the view that competitive under pricing is both un American and destructive. They don't like the "services as software" crowd where competitors, who collaboratively build openly shared freeware, then use it as the basis for delivering fee based services. M$ prefers the "software as a service" approach, where the platform provider can extract a vig from all participants. Salon Magazine politicizes the downturn, blaming old economy campaign contributions to Bush for the collapse of the new "highly productive" economy. And The Economist finds the downturn explanation as a high tech ponzi scheme having run out of suckers. ===================== I think the Economist is closer to the truth and that taking the money siphon away from M$ will start the next boom. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-20-003-20-OP-CY -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 108FcTqMh0781M19; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:38:33 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA88011 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06598; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7876F.4060CD3B@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:07 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Rob Arnold , Jim Manley , abennett@waddell.com Subject: IBM to customise Linux clusters for specific uses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 108FcTqMh0781M19 Backing up that announcement, IBM also said that its Beaverton, Ore.- based Linux laboratories plan to piece together customized Intel-based Linux clustering solutions for targeted markets, including ISPs/ASPs (application service providers) and the life sciences. The company hopes to start delivering such solutions sometime this summer. "Our message here is we are moving away from delivering raw technology, where we ask customers to figure out for themselves what to do with it, to building the specific solution they want that best exploits clustering," said Dave Turek, vice president of Deep Computing with IBM's Web Server group in Armonk, N.Y.. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/03/20/010320hnibmlin.xml?p=br&s=3 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 108FcTqMh0781M19; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:38:33 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA88011 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06598; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7876F.4060CD3B@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:07 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Rob Arnold , Jim Manley , abennett@waddell.com Subject: IBM to customise Linux clusters for specific uses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 108FcTqMh0781M19 Backing up that announcement, IBM also said that its Beaverton, Ore.- based Linux laboratories plan to piece together customized Intel-based Linux clustering solutions for targeted markets, including ISPs/ASPs (application service providers) and the life sciences. The company hopes to start delivering such solutions sometime this summer. "Our message here is we are moving away from delivering raw technology, where we ask customers to figure out for themselves what to do with it, to building the specific solution they want that best exploits clustering," said Dave Turek, vice president of Deep Computing with IBM's Web Server group in Armonk, N.Y.. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/03/20/010320hnibmlin.xml?p=br&s=3 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nm195 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 108FcTqMh0781M19; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 16:38:33 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA88011 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 11:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA06598; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB7876F.4060CD3B@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:07 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Rob Arnold , Jim Manley , abennett@waddell.com Subject: IBM to customise Linux clusters for specific uses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 108FcTqMh0781M19 Backing up that announcement, IBM also said that its Beaverton, Ore.- based Linux laboratories plan to piece together customized Intel-based Linux clustering solutions for targeted markets, including ISPs/ASPs (application service providers) and the life sciences. The company hopes to start delivering such solutions sometime this summer. "Our message here is we are moving away from delivering raw technology, where we ask customers to figure out for themselves what to do with it, to building the specific solution they want that best exploits clustering," said Dave Turek, vice president of Deep Computing with IBM's Web Server group in Armonk, N.Y.. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/03/20/010320hnibmlin.xml?p=br&s=3 -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 496FcTPkW1045M28; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:10:48 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA34081 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA28920; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB772E1.D0B50893@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:25 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" CC: Jim Manley , Tony Hammitt , Hal Dustin Subject: IBM bringing mainframe technology to Unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 496FcTPkW1045M28 Sun was there first with Unix servers that could be partitioned, but IBM's "Regatta" Unix server, due this fall, likely will outpace Sun's partitioning technology, Eunice said. Where the smallest partitions allowed on Sun machines are four-processor boards, Regatta will feature mainframe-like abilities to have a partition running on a single processor or even a fraction of a processor, he said. "It's not like a mainframe, it is a mainframe," Eunice said. "Five years ago, that would have been death, but today I don't think you have to apologize for using mainframe components." IBM is bringing chip packaging technology as well as partitioning from mainframes to Unix servers, Zeitler said. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5180829.html?tag=mn_hd -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 496FcTPkW1045M28; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:10:48 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA34081 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA28920; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB772E1.D0B50893@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:25 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" CC: Jim Manley , Tony Hammitt , Hal Dustin Subject: IBM bringing mainframe technology to Unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 496FcTPkW1045M28 Sun was there first with Unix servers that could be partitioned, but IBM's "Regatta" Unix server, due this fall, likely will outpace Sun's partitioning technology, Eunice said. Where the smallest partitions allowed on Sun machines are four-processor boards, Regatta will feature mainframe-like abilities to have a partition running on a single processor or even a fraction of a processor, he said. "It's not like a mainframe, it is a mainframe," Eunice said. "Five years ago, that would have been death, but today I don't think you have to apologize for using mainframe components." IBM is bringing chip packaging technology as well as partitioning from mainframes to Unix servers, Zeitler said. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5180829.html?tag=mn_hd -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 496FcTPkW1045M28; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:10:48 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA34081 for ; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA28920; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB772E1.D0B50893@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:25 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" CC: Jim Manley , Tony Hammitt , Hal Dustin Subject: IBM bringing mainframe technology to Unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 496FcTPkW1045M28 Sun was there first with Unix servers that could be partitioned, but IBM's "Regatta" Unix server, due this fall, likely will outpace Sun's partitioning technology, Eunice said. Where the smallest partitions allowed on Sun machines are four-processor boards, Regatta will feature mainframe-like abilities to have a partition running on a single processor or even a fraction of a processor, he said. "It's not like a mainframe, it is a mainframe," Eunice said. "Five years ago, that would have been death, but today I don't think you have to apologize for using mainframe components." IBM is bringing chip packaging technology as well as partitioning from mainframes to Unix servers, Zeitler said. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5180829.html?tag=mn_hd -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 532Fcsu8n0964M03; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:59:39 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA75817 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA28507 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB67323.2F25A5CC@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Clusters @ TOP500 - Top Clusters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 532Fcsu8n0964M03 Linux powers 88 out of the top 97 clusters in the world. NT top score 76.80 GFlops Linux top score 483.60 GFlops http://clusters.top500.org/db/result.php3?limit=100&Processor=%25&Country=%25&Interconnect=%25&order_type=desc&show%5B1%5D=site_name&show%5B2%5D=site_country&show%5B5%5D=System&order_field=System&show%5B7%5D=Number_node&show%5B8%5D=Processor_total&show%5B9%5D=Total_Peak_Performance&show%5B12%5D=Interconnect&show%5B13%5D=OS&show%5B16%5D=Application_Area&show%5B17%5D=Year -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 532Fcsu8n0964M03; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:59:39 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA75817 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA28507 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB67323.2F25A5CC@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Clusters @ TOP500 - Top Clusters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 532Fcsu8n0964M03 Linux powers 88 out of the top 97 clusters in the world. NT top score 76.80 GFlops Linux top score 483.60 GFlops http://clusters.top500.org/db/result.php3?limit=100&Processor=%25&Country=%25&Interconnect=%25&order_type=desc&show%5B1%5D=site_name&show%5B2%5D=site_country&show%5B5%5D=System&order_field=System&show%5B7%5D=Number_node&show%5B8%5D=Processor_total&show%5B9%5D=Total_Peak_Performance&show%5B12%5D=Interconnect&show%5B13%5D=OS&show%5B16%5D=Application_Area&show%5B17%5D=Year -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:23 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 532Fcsu8n0964M03; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:59:39 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA75817 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA28507 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB67323.2F25A5CC@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Clusters @ TOP500 - Top Clusters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 532Fcsu8n0964M03 Linux powers 88 out of the top 97 clusters in the world. NT top score 76.80 GFlops Linux top score 483.60 GFlops http://clusters.top500.org/db/result.php3?limit=100&Processor=%25&Country=%25&Interconnect=%25&order_type=desc&show%5B1%5D=site_name&show%5B2%5D=site_country&show%5B5%5D=System&order_field=System&show%5B7%5D=Number_node&show%5B8%5D=Processor_total&show%5B9%5D=Total_Peak_Performance&show%5B12%5D=Interconnect&show%5B13%5D=OS&show%5B16%5D=Application_Area&show%5B17%5D=Year -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 080Fcsskc1211M05; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:10:02 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07214 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15274; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB64B3F.F6345195@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Applixware to run on Linux390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 080Fcsskc1211M05 http://eltoday.com/article.php3?ltsn=2001-03-19-001-14-PS-LF -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 080Fcsskc1211M05; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:10:02 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07214 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15274; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB64B3F.F6345195@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Applixware to run on Linux390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 080Fcsskc1211M05 http://eltoday.com/article.php3?ltsn=2001-03-19-001-14-PS-LF -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 080Fcsskc1211M05; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:10:02 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07214 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15274; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AB64B3F.F6345195@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Applixware to run on Linux390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 080Fcsskc1211M05 http://eltoday.com/article.php3?ltsn=2001-03-19-001-14-PS-LF -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation tool From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 021FcsgyS1071M28; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:24:44 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA79669 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J6McH29309; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:39 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AB5A5AD.A99AC644@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:37 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Hal Dustin Subject: Killing the 'Linux Future' Fallacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 021FcsgyS1071M28 Talks about Open Source as being the software implementation of the scientific method. http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/articles/killing-the-linux-future-fallacy.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 021FcsgyS1071M28; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:24:44 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA79669 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J6McH29309; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:39 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AB5A5AD.A99AC644@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:37 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Hal Dustin Subject: Killing the 'Linux Future' Fallacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 021FcsgyS1071M28 Talks about Open Source as being the software implementation of the scientific method. http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/articles/killing-the-linux-future-fallacy.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 021FcsgyS1071M28; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:24:44 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA79669 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2J6McH29309; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:39 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AB5A5AD.A99AC644@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:37 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Hal Dustin Subject: Killing the 'Linux Future' Fallacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 021FcsgyS1071M28 Talks about Open Source as being the software implementation of the scientific method. http://www.linuxlookup.com/html/articles/killing-the-linux-future-fallacy.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 979FcmXCF1151M03; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:28:05 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA34727 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20940; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:26:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AAEACB1.61D3BA7F@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:26:41 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Jim Manley , Rex Ballard Subject: Only the strong survive in Linux landscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 979FcmXCF1151M03 Gartner gets it wrong again. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-13-006-20-NW-BZ-MR&tbovrmode=1#talkback_area From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 823FciuKw0065M03; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:36:22 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA82666 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07194 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:35:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA93EA1.AAAC3DBF@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:45 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: New Microsoft Office faces more declines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 823FciuKw0065M03 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5067906.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 823FciuKw0065M03; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:36:22 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA82666 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07194 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:35:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA93EA1.AAAC3DBF@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:45 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: New Microsoft Office faces more declines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 823FciuKw0065M03 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5067906.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 823FciuKw0065M03; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:36:22 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA82666 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA07194 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:35:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA93EA1.AAAC3DBF@waddell.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:45 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: New Microsoft Office faces more declines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 823FciuKw0065M03 http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5067906.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 787FcFT621068M28; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:57:53 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA93933 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA14902; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA54126.7B08779C@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard CC: "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Linux Today - The Great Security Debate: Linux vs. Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 787FcFT621068M28 >From the end of comment #4: If they can create the impression that there is real debate on the subject, then people with little knowledge who have other reasons for choosing windows (whether real reasons or reasons created by marketing) will be able to think to themselves when told about the insecurity of Windows, "Ah, that person is on the anti-Windows side of THE DEBATE." and ignore their expertise because of the (assumed to exist) other experts who are on the pro-Windows side of THE DEBATE. So this piece is less laughable than it seems to us. We should try hard to make it clear that *there is no real debate on this subject except in the mouths of marketing flacks*. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-06-005-20-SC-MS From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 787FcFT621068M28; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:57:53 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA93933 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA14902; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA54126.7B08779C@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard CC: "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Linux Today - The Great Security Debate: Linux vs. Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 787FcFT621068M28 >From the end of comment #4: If they can create the impression that there is real debate on the subject, then people with little knowledge who have other reasons for choosing windows (whether real reasons or reasons created by marketing) will be able to think to themselves when told about the insecurity of Windows, "Ah, that person is on the anti-Windows side of THE DEBATE." and ignore their expertise because of the (assumed to exist) other experts who are on the pro-Windows side of THE DEBATE. So this piece is less laughable than it seems to us. We should try hard to make it clear that *there is no real debate on this subject except in the mouths of marketing flacks*. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-06-005-20-SC-MS From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.40] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 787FcFT621068M28; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:57:53 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA93933 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA14902; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3AA54126.7B08779C@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard CC: "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Linux Today - The Great Security Debate: Linux vs. Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 787FcFT621068M28 >From the end of comment #4: If they can create the impression that there is real debate on the subject, then people with little knowledge who have other reasons for choosing windows (whether real reasons or reasons created by marketing) will be able to think to themselves when told about the insecurity of Windows, "Ah, that person is on the anti-Windows side of THE DEBATE." and ignore their expertise because of the (assumed to exist) other experts who are on the pro-Windows side of THE DEBATE. So this piece is less laughable than it seems to us. We should try hard to make it clear that *there is no real debate on this subject except in the mouths of marketing flacks*. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-06-005-20-SC-MS From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 179FcDu7C0546M29; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:58:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15486 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f24KwD209445 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA2AC65.80B0BB52@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: The Little Engine that Could Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 179FcDu7C0546M29 When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case." http://www.millimeter.com/2001/02_feb/features/linux/engine.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 179FcDu7C0546M29; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:58:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15486 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f24KwD209445 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA2AC65.80B0BB52@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: The Little Engine that Could Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 179FcDu7C0546M29 When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case." http://www.millimeter.com/2001/02_feb/features/linux/engine.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 179FcDu7C0546M29; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:58:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15486 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f24KwD209445 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA2AC65.80B0BB52@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: The Little Engine that Could Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 179FcDu7C0546M29 When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case." http://www.millimeter.com/2001/02_feb/features/linux/engine.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.39] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 179FcDu7C0546M29; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:58:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15486 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f24KwD209445 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA2AC65.80B0BB52@kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: The Little Engine that Could Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 179FcDu7C0546M29 When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case." http://www.millimeter.com/2001/02_feb/features/linux/engine.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by mx02 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 890FcDBT70424M02; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:19:58 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA88078 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f241Jp223249 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:19:51 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA19836.6E921C18@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:19:50 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: 1996: MS pledges to Internet-enable all products Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 890FcDBT70424M02 .net still has not come. I wonder if the Wintrolls and sock-puppets will claim it did not start that long ago. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/news1/ns-696.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 523FccXqC0614M24; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:16:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA65240 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23NGK222300; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA17B44.BAD74F7E@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" CC: Rex Ballard Subject: Another example of M$ using ambigous language in contracts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 523FccXqC0614M24 Since it was a Washington State judge I think Timeline would have won every point in a different venue. http://www.timeline.com/120400PR2.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 523FccXqC0614M24; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:16:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA65240 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23NGK222300; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA17B44.BAD74F7E@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" CC: Rex Ballard Subject: Another example of M$ using ambigous language in contracts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 523FccXqC0614M24 Since it was a Washington State judge I think Timeline would have won every point in a different venue. http://www.timeline.com/120400PR2.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 523FccXqC0614M24; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 23:16:28 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA65240 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:16:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23NGK222300; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA17B44.BAD74F7E@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" CC: Rex Ballard Subject: Another example of M$ using ambigous language in contracts. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 523FccXqC0614M24 Since it was a Washington State judge I think Timeline would have won every point in a different venue. http://www.timeline.com/120400PR2.htm From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:24 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 338FccwbO0573M03; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 22:27:40 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (mkc-65-26-87-7.kc.rr.com [65.26.87.7]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23728 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23MRW221822; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:27:32 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA16FD3.236D2A1B@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 16:27:32 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" CC: Rex Ballard Subject: A different statement of the GPL ? 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kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23HWF218394; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA12A9F.8B89B297@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: MS has 55% of the SSL web sites Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34" X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 926FccRGG0836M03 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I talked with a top notch webmaster on Friday and happened to mention that I did not understand how Apache could have 60% of all web sites and IIS could have 55% of all the SSL sites. He said it is a combination of two things, SSL is a bitch to integrate with Apache and IE does not follow the negotiation protocol for keepalives with SSL. Most web admins don't have management patient enough to let them discover that IE fails to negotiate properly when keepalives are used. The default configuration of Apache has them on by default. He changed his sites to not use keepalives when the browser was IE and everybody was happy because he did not have to throw Apache away and recode the all the pages for IIS. So the primary reason they have so much server percentage is that they have "leveraged" their browser monoply by fixing IE so it fails to work with non Microsoft servers. That is another Sherman Act violation but they will not be in court on it as far as I can tell. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-01-011-04-NW-MS-SV-0010 -- How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape? - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting --------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name="news_story.php3" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="news_story.php3" Content-Base: "http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3? ltsn=2001-03-01-011-04-NW-MS-SV-001 0" Content-Location: "http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3? ltsn=2001-03-01-011-04-NW-MS-SV-001 0" PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PHRpdGxlPkxpbnV4IFRvZGF5IC0gVGhlIFJlZ2lzdGVyOiBNUyBzdGls bCBvd25zIGRlc2t0b3AsIGJ1dCBMaW51eCBnYWlucyBhdCBzZXJ2ZXIgZW5kPC90aXRsZT48 L2hlYWQ+PGJvZHkgIGJnY29sb3I9IiNGRkZGRkYiIGxpbms9IiMwMDQ0ZGUiIHRleHQ9IiMw MDIyNDQiIFZMSU5LPSJCbGFjayIgQUxJTks9IlJlZCI+PFRBQkxFIEJPUkRFUj0iMCIgQ0VM 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MAA69077 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23HWF218394; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA12A9F.8B89B297@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: MS has 55% of the SSL web sites Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34" X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 926FccRGG0836M03 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I talked with a top notch webmaster on Friday and happened to mention that I did not understand how Apache could have 60% of all web sites and IIS could have 55% of all the SSL sites. He said it is a combination of two things, SSL is a bitch to integrate with Apache and IE does not follow the negotiation protocol for keepalives with SSL. Most web admins don't have management patient enough to let them discover that IE fails to negotiate properly when keepalives are used. The default configuration of Apache has them on by default. He changed his sites to not use keepalives when the browser was IE and everybody was happy because he did not have to throw Apache away and recode the all the pages for IIS. So the primary reason they have so much server percentage is that they have "leveraged" their browser monoply by fixing IE so it fails to work with non Microsoft servers. That is another Sherman Act violation but they will not be in court on it as far as I can tell. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-03-01-011-04-NW-MS-SV-0010 -- How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape? - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting --------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1; name="news_story.php3" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="news_story.php3" Content-Base: "http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3? ltsn=2001-03-01-011-04-NW-MS-SV-001 0" Content-Location: "http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3? ltsn=2001-03-01-011-04-NW-MS-SV-001 0" PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PHRpdGxlPkxpbnV4IFRvZGF5IC0gVGhlIFJlZ2lzdGVyOiBNUyBzdGls bCBvd25zIGRlc2t0b3AsIGJ1dCBMaW51eCBnYWlucyBhdCBzZXJ2ZXIgZW5kPC90aXRsZT48 L2hlYWQ+PGJvZHkgIGJnY29sb3I9IiNGRkZGRkYiIGxpbms9IiMwMDQ0ZGUiIHRleHQ9IiMw MDIyNDQiIFZMSU5LPSJCbGFjayIgQUxJTks9IlJlZCI+PFRBQkxFIEJPUkRFUj0iMCIgQ0VM 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MAA69077 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@allenhome.kc.rr.com [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f23HWF218394; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3AA12A9F.8B89B297@kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard Subject: MS has 55% of the SSL web sites Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 926FccRGG0836M03 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I talked with a top notch webmaster on Friday and happened to mention that I did not understand how Apache could have 60% of all web sites and IIS could have 55% of all the SSL sites. He said it is a combination of two things, SSL is a bitch to integrate with Apache and IE does not follow the negotiation protocol for keepalives with SSL. Most web admins don't have management patient enough to let them discover that IE fails to negotiate properly when keepalives are used. The default configuration of Apache has them on by default. He changed his sites to not use keepalives when the browser was IE and everybody was happy because he did not have to throw Apache away and recode the all the pages for IIS. So the primary reason they have so much server percentage is that they have "leveraged" their browser monoply by fixing IE so it fails to work with non Microsoft servers. 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Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard , Jim Manley , Hal Dustin Subject: The Register describes Itanium deathwatch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 544FBbswh0805M05 This reminds me of the Intel chip from the mid 80s which ran Ada as its machinecode. They finally abandoned it when an eight megahertz 68000 could outrun it. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/17233.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.36] by mx09 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 083FBbqv30848M09; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:47:55 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32455 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA03413; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:47:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D2BA1.D43B0FC4@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:47:29 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" CC: Rex Ballard , Tony Hammitt , Jim Manley Subject: Open Source developer offers to set trap for CPRM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 083FBbqv30848M09 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/17230.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.37] by nmcst151 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 813FBbPYk1395M22; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:50:10 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA81866 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA27088 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:49:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9D1DF0.C829AAEE@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:49:04 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Linux is Poised for a Breakout Year At the Checkout in 2001 According to IHL Consulting Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 813FBbPYk1395M22 http://ny-web1.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?day0/210592035&ticker= From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.43] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 053FBAqD70344M24; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 16:03:58 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07580 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA26447; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:03:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9BCFD8.3782BEC1@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:03:36 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard , "T. Max Devlin" Subject: Microsoft disputes research about Gigabit performance of Win 2000, 02/26/01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 053FBAqD70344M24 http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2001/0226performance.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.42] by mx02 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 704FBZRI11193M02; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:34:52 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA65314 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA28914 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:33:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A9A9381.6897E20E@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:33:53 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Microsoft reportedly under fire from FTC over handheld ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 704FBZRI11193M02 Maybe one of the remedies should be forcing all employees to attend an ethics course. http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/02/26/010226hnfalse.xml?p=br&s=4 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 665FBuu1t0058M03; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:52:46 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA49431 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA02991; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:52:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A942A82.C99E7EF8@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:52:18 -0600 From: Ed Allen Reply-To: eallen@kc.rr.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , Rex Ballard CC: Jim Manley , Hal Dustin Subject: Microsoft may be validating the GPL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 665FBuu1t0058M03 I think he is right. Microsoft lawyers cannot figure a valid legal assault on GPL so MS is running to the government like they have repeatedly done with targets too big for them to tackle on their own. They are sure that any direct attack on the GPL would be a PR disaster and that any trial would expose their frustration at not being able to profiteer with GPL code. A loser both ways so they are hoping to get ignorant Congressmen to outlaw it instead. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-02-20-019-04-PS-CY-MS-0026 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.35] by mx02 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 623FBNPrc1139M02; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:43:02 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31867 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA25691; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:42:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A8AA74B.EB65B525@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:42:03 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" CC: Jim Manley , Rex Ballard Subject: Belluzo to be new M$ COO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 623FBNPrc1139M02 This the guy who took SGI from profits just behind Sun to near bankruptcy. I hope his reward from Redmond will enable him to do the same for M$. http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml;$sessionid$XGKBA2YAAICUSCRBADLCFFAKEEANOIV2?type=technology&Repository=TECHNOLOGY_REP&RepositoryStoryID=%2Fnews%2FIDS%2FTechnology%2FTECH-MICROSOFT-PRESIDENT-DC_TXT.XML From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mail.9netave.com [216.156.2.38] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 343FBNPP70364M03; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:15:58 GMT Received: from mailhost.waddell.com (mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26]) by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA77292 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA22856 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:15:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A8AA0FA.B9E04CED@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:15:06 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: Microsoft funds new lab, more Mincraft type lies on the way ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 343FBNPP70364M03 Ed Allen wrote: > > �CE used to be very slow and very big-sort of a scaled-down Windows,� > said Markus Levy, an analyst at MicroDesign Resources and president of > the EDN Embedded Microprocessor Benchmark Consortium in El Dorado Hills, > Calif., which is also creating a lab to classify OS performance. > �Microsoft has been very aggressive in trying to get [the OS lab] to > fruition so they can prove what CE's capabilities are. That makes me > think maybe they don't have anything to hide.� > > http://www.ebnonline.com/digest/story/OEG20010212S0130 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx04 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 016FBmqVj0319M04; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:21:35 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA21313 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:21:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A895F0E.E2C3DBFE@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:21:34 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rex Ballard Subject: [Fwd: Microsoft funds new lab, more Mincraft type lies on the way ?] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailhost.waddell.com id KAA21313 X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 016FBmqVj0319M04 Ed Allen wrote: >=20 > =93CE used to be very slow and very big-sort of a scaled-down Windows,=94 > said Markus Levy, an analyst at MicroDesign Resources and president of > the EDN Embedded Microprocessor Benchmark Consortium in El Dorado Hills= , > Calif., which is also creating a lab to classify OS performance. > =93Microsoft has been very aggressive in trying to get [the OS lab] to > fruition so they can prove what CE's capabilities are. That makes me > think maybe they don't have anything to hide.=94 >=20 > http://www.ebnonline.com/digest/story/OEG20010212S0130 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx03 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 229Fadsrb1125M03; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:43:27 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA23271 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:43:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A770B4C.C7F89E2E@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:43:24 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Govt.-Industry team to release "supercomputer on a CD" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 229Fadsrb1125M03 http://lwn.net/daily/oscar.php3 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx04 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 227FaCqDd1271M04; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:03:29 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA20279 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:03:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A75944F.251D3D95@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:03:27 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: ZDNet: Interactive Week: Linux Takes On Bigger Jobs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 227FaCqDd1271M04 http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/stories/news/0,4164,2679136,00.html -- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff Merkey http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999/1999week26/0787.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by nmcst150 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 143FawsDv0996M21; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:03:47 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA05422 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:03:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A6DC781.4B51BDC4@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:03:45 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Linux makes the difference ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 143FawsDv0996M21 "Hewlett-Packard is talking about a weak first half: IBM is talking about no such thing," said Shebly Seyrafi, analyst with A.G. Edwards & Sons. http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/current/ibm.htx?source=htx/http2_mw -- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff Merkey http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999/1999week26/0787.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 308FawR4k1170M29; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:55:10 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA04521 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A6DC57C.19475B86@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:08 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: IBM Also Says (Unofficially), It Looks Like Linux is Paying Off Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 308FawR4k1170M29 http://eltoday.com/article.php3?ltsn=2001-01-23-001-13-PS-SM -- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff Merkey http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999/1999week26/0787.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by nmcst331 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 439FaVPQc1442M28; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:42:02 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA03364; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:42:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A6C54C7.FE5E7B2C@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:41:59 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net, tmax@voicenet.com Subject: Pizza maker about to switch to Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 439FaVPQc1442M28 I think that the unnamed company here is Pizza Hut. http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-19-004-06-PS-BZ-CY-0008 -- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff Merkey http://boudicca.tux.org/hypermail/linux-kernel/1999/1999week26/0787.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from kc.rr.com [65.26.126.67] by mx29 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 651FaPcXg0366M29; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:23:06 GMT Received: from kc.rr.com (IDENT:eallen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kc.rr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0G2N3P05727; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:23:03 -0600 Sender: eallen@kc.rr.com Message-ID: <3A63B085.38EE1EBB@kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:23:01 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test12 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "T. Max Devlin" , r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Microsoft pushes for 100 million Xbox sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 651FaPcXg0366M29 Save this link for when X-Bob sales do not live up to expectations. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/story.cfm?sid=2038 From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx05 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 683FaiwAs0399M05; Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:26:18 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA07042; Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:26:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A5B9007.EBC55FE7@waddell.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:26:15 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmax@voicenet.com, r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Another Key Microsoft Windows exec departs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 683FaiwAs0399M05 More and more underpinnings of the monopoly are cashing out before the breakup. http://www.zdnet.com/eweek/stories/general/0,11011,2672823,00.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx09 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 386FaHXkv1266M09; Mon, 08 Jan 2001 23:10:47 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA27577; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:10:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A5A48F4.AC8EE688@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:10:44 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net, tmax@voicenet.com Subject: Drugs, Microsoft and .Net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 386FaHXkv1266M09 http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/6548.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx09 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 690Facu611316M09; Wed, 03 Jan 2001 20:57:53 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA12962 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:57:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A53924D.A4D6F0FA@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:57:49 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: The "official" story of how Gates obtained Dec BASIC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailhost.waddell.com id OAA12962 X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 690Facu611316M09 When C-cubed went out of business in 1970, the Lakeside Programmers Club=20 nearly imploded in civil war. Gates and Evans arranged to buy a set of=20 DEC tapes cheap in a bankruptcy auction =97 without the knowledge of thei= r partners. http://www.washtech.com/news/software/6264-1.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from waddell.com [208.132.88.75] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 110eLAXEB0520M24; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 23:30:01 GMT Received: from waddell.com (eallen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waddell.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id RAA09971 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:29:57 -0600 Sender: eallen@waddell.com Message-ID: <3A4A7B75.770A93F2@waddell.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:29:57 -0600 From: Edgar Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Microsoft Supports Windows Media Services On Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 110eLAXEB0520M24 http://www.zdnet.com/sp/stories/news/0,4538,2664804,00.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx09 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 467eLAR6I1426M09; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:57:34 GMT Received: from eallen (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id LAA16294 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:57:32 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20001227115730.00906a50@mailhost> X-Sender: eallen@mailhost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:57:31 -0600 To: r.e.ballard@usa.net From: Ed Allen Subject: 2.5 million initially and $700,000 more with Microsoft Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 467eLAR6I1426M09 >X-From_: owner-linux-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Wed Dec 27 11:33:33 2000 >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:31:12 -0500 >Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port >Sender: Linux on 390 Port >From: "Post, Mark K" >Subject: FW: InternetWeek > In Depth > Operating Systems > Linux Goes Reta > il > Dec. 11, 2000 >To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > >Not Linux/390, but significant anyway. > >http://www.internetweek.com/indepth/indepth121100-2.htm > >Major points: >Musicland (owner of Sam Goody and Suncoast Motion Picture Co.) >is installing 7,000 POS terminals running Linux. Musicland >calculated that basing their new system on Microsoft would cost >$2.5 million more initially and an additional $700,000 per year >in ongoing costs. > >Home Depot Inc. plans to roll out some 90,000 cash registers >and in-store terminals running Linux and Java by 2003. The >company saw "tremendous dollar savings" by reducing the amount >of hardware it had to install in each client, declining to >provide specific cost figures. > >"About 15 of the nation's 20 largest retailers are looking at >Linux, according to one industry source. Retailers that have >reportedly kicked the tires with Linux include Auto Zone, Gap >and Goodyear Tire & Rubber, sources say." > >Mark > > From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx02 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 266eLRsQL0586M02; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:42:12 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA13872; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:41:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A3E5A53.22C92AE0@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:41:23 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Win2000 sales disappointing analysts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 266eLRsQL0586M02 http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2665612,00.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by nmcst152 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 600eLRsE80263M24; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:30:59 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12689; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:30:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A3E57BF.4E12D7C5@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:30:23 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Quietly shifting away from the antitrust witnesses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 600eLRsE80263M24 Removing the ones who know where the oldest skeletons are buried ? http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4191895.html?dtn.head From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by nmcst153 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 511eLRsXJ0217M25; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:23:09 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA11914; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:22:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A3E55EC.1880D6CD@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:22:36 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: Microsoft VP Joachim Kempin Leaving Post Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 511eLRsXJ0217M25 I keep hoping for a "night of the long knives" but I have seen nothing to indicate Jim Alchin is in disfavor. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20001218/tc/microsoft_report_dc_1.html From - Mon Jun 18 09:26:25 2001 Received: from mailhost.waddell.com [208.132.88.26] by mx09 via mtad (34FM.0700.12.01) with ESMTP id 124eLRRWh1292M09; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:48:33 GMT Received: from waddell.com (c2-78.waddell.com [10.1.2.78]) by mailhost.waddell.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA08241; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:47:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A3E4DCE.EF83AFDB@waddell.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:47:58 -0600 From: Ed Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.net Subject: M$ exclusionary terms removed from RoadRunner contracts Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DC42EAC61DF92E2F282BCCDD" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 124eLRRWh1292M09 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC42EAC61DF92E2F282BCCDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yet, a statement released by Time Warner, notes that a 20 percent combined interest of Road Runner held by Microsoft Corp. and Compaq Computer Corp. will be redeemed, while a joint venture between AT&T and Road Runner will be dissolved. Luftman insists that buying out Microsoft's share is a step in opening up competition, not shutting it out. "Microsoft held minority ownership in Road Runner and we are buying back shares," he said. "Today's announcement helps us to remove limitations within the affiliation agreement and accelerate our ability to offer multiple ISP systems. This has nothing to do with the MSN network. As far as ISP negotiations go, talks with the MSN network are under way." http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_538241,00.html --------------DC42EAC61DF92E2F282BCCDD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="0,,8_538241,00.html" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="0,,8_538241,00.html" Content-Base: "http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/a rticle/0,,8_538241,00.html" Content-Location: "http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/a rticle/0,,8_538241,00.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit InternetNews - ISP News -- Time Warner Chases Road Runner

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Time Warner Chases Road Runner
By Carol King

Did Time Warner Cable ruffle some industry feathers Monday when it increased its ownership of the Road Runner Internet service?
By increasing its stake and restructuring the operating platform for Road Runner, Time Warner Cable is clearing the way to offering multiple ISPs on its systems on an accelerated basis, according Michael Luftman, a spokesperson, for Time Warner Cable. The restructuring will end Road Runner's exclusivity on Time Warner Cable, which was to run through the end of 2001.
The announcement comes on the heels of the FTC approval of the AOL/Time-Warner union, which is the biggest merger in U.S. history. Upon approval of the merger, federal investigators and industry players felt that a combined AOL-Time Warner will guarantee open access to Time Warner cable lines.
Yet, a statement released by Time Warner, notes that a 20 percent combined interest of Road Runner held by Microsoft Corp. and Compaq Computer Corp. will be redeemed, while a joint venture between AT&T and Road Runner will be dissolved.
Luftman insists that buying out Microsoft's share is a step in opening up competition, not shutting it out. "Microsoft held minority ownership in Road Runner and we are buying back shares," he said.
"Today's announcement helps us to remove limitations within the affiliation agreement and accelerate our ability to offer multiple ISP systems. This has nothing to do with the MSN network. As far as ISP negotations go, talks with the MSN network are under way."
Calls to a spokesperson for Microsoft were not returned as of this writing.
Buying out Microsoft's share is an effort by Time Warner to solidify the control over Road Runner and brand the product, noted Michael Goodman, senior analyst, The Yankee Group. "AOL and Time Warner ultimately want the equity stake in Road Runner so that the service can be branded high-speed service," he said. "AOL has proved that it knows how to grow an ISP. This move is playing to AOL's strengths."
Dissolving the joint venture with AT&T is a means of complying with FTC demands, he added. "Time Warner is opening up the competition," he said. "The FTC was concerned by AT&T involvement with Road Runner and Excite@Home. Now the two companies can effectively compete against each other."
Presently, Time Warner, AT&T Broadband and Advance/Newhouse jointly own an 80 percent fully diluted interest in Road Runner LLC.
Starting in April, AT&T broadband will continue to offer the Road Runner service to its cable customers for a transitional period of up to 15 months under a new service agreement with Time Warner Cable's new Road Runner company.
It is doubtful that AT&T will continue offering Road Runner after the 15 month interim period ends, according to Bill Whyman, president of The Precursor Group.
"@Home and Road Runner have been trapped in huge, unwieldy alliances. People knew it could not last" he explained. "Both sides need to uncomplicate these structures and focus on their own. I think AT&T will work to promote its @Home service. They have little incentive not to."
Time Warner and its affiliates expect to incur approximately $570 million in cash expenditures related to the restructuring, and they will receive the national assets of Road Runner. Time Warner expects to recognize a one-time restructuring charge of $20 million to $40 million in the fourth quarter of 2000 in connection with this transaction.
The Road Runner restructuring, resulting from a consent decree between AT&T and the Department of Justice in connection with AT&T's acquisition of MediaOne Group, is expected to be completed by April of 2001.

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