Updates from Ed Allen
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:24:56 -0600
Subject: MS To Users: Pay Up > Mar. 29, 2001
M$ wants a percentage of every use of every computer. That prevents novel uses by driving the cost up.Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:10 -0600
Subject: FreeDevelopers.Net``The Community is the Company''
The major innovation of the FreeDevelopers structure is that it inverts the traditional developer-marketer axis, so that the community of software developers controls the marketers. The proprietary structure has it reversed -- the corporate marketers have been controlling the developers. ===================== I wonder if this will succeed. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:10 -0600
Subject: FreeDevelopers.Net``The Community is the Company''
The major innovation of the FreeDevelopers structure is that it inverts the traditional developer-marketer axis, so that the community of software developers controls the marketers. The proprietary structure has it reversed -- the corporate marketers have been controlling the developers. ===================== I wonder if this will succeed. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:58:10 -0600
Subject: FreeDevelopers.Net``The Community is the Company''
The major innovation of the FreeDevelopers structure is that it inverts the traditional developer-marketer axis, so that the community of software developers controls the marketers. The proprietary structure has it reversed -- the corporate marketers have been controlling the developers. ===================== I wonder if this will succeed. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600
Subject: Microsoft's Ballmer plots course for embedded Windows
When faced with actual competition M$ hides the iron fist back inside the velvet glove. How many of the developers who are enticed by their giveaways will have their license costs skyrocket if they are a success ? Makes me think of the old story of the sheep and the jackal discussing what is for dinner. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600
Subject: Microsoft's Ballmer plots course for embedded Windows
When faced with actual competition M$ hides the iron fist back inside the velvet glove. How many of the developers who are enticed by their giveaways will have their license costs skyrocket if they are a success ? Makes me think of the old story of the sheep and the jackal discussing what is for dinner. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:49:50 -0600
Subject: Microsoft's Ballmer plots course for embedded Windows
When faced with actual competition M$ hides the iron fist back inside the velvet glove. How many of the developers who are enticed by their giveaways will have their license costs skyrocket if they are a success ? Makes me think of the old story of the sheep and the jackal discussing what is for dinner. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:01 -0600
Subject: Linux Today - Tux the Impaler?
The unexpected downturn of the economy has everyone pointing fingers. M$ has the view that competitive under pricing is both un American and destructive. They don't like the "services as software" crowd where competitors, who collaboratively build openly shared freeware, then use it as the basis for delivering fee based services. M$ prefers the "software as a service" approach, where the platform provider can extract a vig from all participants. Salon Magazine politicizes the downturn, blaming old economy campaign contributions to Bush for the collapse of the new "highly productive" economy. And The Economist finds the downturn explanation as a high tech ponzi scheme having run out of suckers. ===================== I think the Economist is closer to the truth and that taking the money siphon away from M$ will start the next boom. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:01 -0600
Subject: Linux Today - Tux the Impaler?
The unexpected downturn of the economy has everyone pointing fingers. M$ has the view that competitive under pricing is both un American and destructive. They don't like the "services as software" crowd where competitors, who collaboratively build openly shared freeware, then use it as the basis for delivering fee based services. M$ prefers the "software as a service" approach, where the platform provider can extract a vig from all participants. Salon Magazine politicizes the downturn, blaming old economy campaign contributions to Bush for the collapse of the new "highly productive" economy. And The Economist finds the downturn explanation as a high tech ponzi scheme having run out of suckers. ===================== I think the Economist is closer to the truth and that taking the money siphon away from M$ will start the next boom. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 13:08:01 -0600
Subject: Linux Today - Tux the Impaler?
The unexpected downturn of the economy has everyone pointing fingers. M$ has the view that competitive under pricing is both un American and destructive. They don't like the "services as software" crowd where competitors, who collaboratively build openly shared freeware, then use it as the basis for delivering fee based services. M$ prefers the "software as a service" approach, where the platform provider can extract a vig from all participants. Salon Magazine politicizes the downturn, blaming old economy campaign contributions to Bush for the collapse of the new "highly productive" economy. And The Economist finds the downturn explanation as a high tech ponzi scheme having run out of suckers. ===================== I think the Economist is closer to the truth and that taking the money siphon away from M$ will start the next boom. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:07 -0600
Subject: IBM to customise Linux clusters for specific uses
Backing up that announcement, IBM also said that its Beaverton, Ore.- based Linux laboratories plan to piece together customized Intel-based Linux clustering solutions for targeted markets, including ISPs/ASPs (application service providers) and the life sciences. The company hopes to start delivering such solutions sometime this summer. "Our message here is we are moving away from delivering raw technology, where we ask customers to figure out for themselves what to do with it, to building the specific solution they want that best exploits clustering," said Dave Turek, vice president of Deep Computing with IBM's Web Server group in Armonk, N.Y.. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:07 -0600
Subject: IBM to customise Linux clusters for specific uses
Backing up that announcement, IBM also said that its Beaverton, Ore.- based Linux laboratories plan to piece together customized Intel-based Linux clustering solutions for targeted markets, including ISPs/ASPs (application service providers) and the life sciences. The company hopes to start delivering such solutions sometime this summer. "Our message here is we are moving away from delivering raw technology, where we ask customers to figure out for themselves what to do with it, to building the specific solution they want that best exploits clustering," said Dave Turek, vice president of Deep Computing with IBM's Web Server group in Armonk, N.Y.. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:38:07 -0600
Subject: IBM to customise Linux clusters for specific uses
Backing up that announcement, IBM also said that its Beaverton, Ore.- based Linux laboratories plan to piece together customized Intel-based Linux clustering solutions for targeted markets, including ISPs/ASPs (application service providers) and the life sciences. The company hopes to start delivering such solutions sometime this summer. "Our message here is we are moving away from delivering raw technology, where we ask customers to figure out for themselves what to do with it, to building the specific solution they want that best exploits clustering," said Dave Turek, vice president of Deep Computing with IBM's Web Server group in Armonk, N.Y.. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:25 -0600
Subject: IBM bringing mainframe technology to Unix
Sun was there first with Unix servers that could be partitioned, but IBM's "Regatta" Unix server, due this fall, likely will outpace Sun's partitioning technology, Eunice said. Where the smallest partitions allowed on Sun machines are four-processor boards, Regatta will feature mainframe-like abilities to have a partition running on a single processor or even a fraction of a processor, he said. "It's not like a mainframe, it is a mainframe," Eunice said. "Five years ago, that would have been death, but today I don't think you have to apologize for using mainframe components." IBM is bringing chip packaging technology as well as partitioning from mainframes to Unix servers, Zeitler said. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:25 -0600
Subject: IBM bringing mainframe technology to Unix
Sun was there first with Unix servers that could be partitioned, but IBM's "Regatta" Unix server, due this fall, likely will outpace Sun's partitioning technology, Eunice said. Where the smallest partitions allowed on Sun machines are four-processor boards, Regatta will feature mainframe-like abilities to have a partition running on a single processor or even a fraction of a processor, he said. "It's not like a mainframe, it is a mainframe," Eunice said. "Five years ago, that would have been death, but today I don't think you have to apologize for using mainframe components." IBM is bringing chip packaging technology as well as partitioning from mainframes to Unix servers, Zeitler said. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 09:10:25 -0600
Subject: IBM bringing mainframe technology to Unix
Sun was there first with Unix servers that could be partitioned, but IBM's "Regatta" Unix server, due this fall, likely will outpace Sun's partitioning technology, Eunice said. Where the smallest partitions allowed on Sun machines are four-processor boards, Regatta will feature mainframe-like abilities to have a partition running on a single processor or even a fraction of a processor, he said. "It's not like a mainframe, it is a mainframe," Eunice said. "Five years ago, that would have been death, but today I don't think you have to apologize for using mainframe components." IBM is bringing chip packaging technology as well as partitioning from mainframes to Unix servers, Zeitler said. -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600
Subject: Clusters @ TOP500 - Top Clusters
Linux powers 88 out of the top 97 clusters in the world. NT top score 76.80 GFlops Linux top score 483.60 GFlops -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600
Subject: Clusters @ TOP500 - Top Clusters
Linux powers 88 out of the top 97 clusters in the world. NT top score 76.80 GFlops Linux top score 483.60 GFlops -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:59:15 -0600
Subject: Clusters @ TOP500 - Top Clusters
Linux powers 88 out of the top 97 clusters in the world. NT top score 76.80 GFlops Linux top score 483.60 GFlops -- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600
Subject: Applixware to run on Linux390
-- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600
Subject: Applixware to run on Linux390
-- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:09:03 -0600
Subject: Applixware to run on Linux390
-- Linux - the Unix defragmentation toolDate: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:37 -0600
Subject: Killing the 'Linux Future' Fallacy
Talks about Open Source as being the software implementation of the scientific method.Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:37 -0600
Subject: Killing the 'Linux Future' Fallacy
Talks about Open Source as being the software implementation of the scientific method.Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 00:22:37 -0600
Subject: Killing the 'Linux Future' Fallacy
Talks about Open Source as being the software implementation of the scientific method.Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:26:41 -0600
Subject: Only the strong survive in Linux landscape
Gartner gets it wrong again.Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:45 -0600
Subject: New Microsoft Office faces more declines
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:45 -0600
Subject: New Microsoft Office faces more declines
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:45 -0600
Subject: New Microsoft Office faces more declines
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600
Subject: Linux Today - The Great Security Debate: Linux vs. Windows
>From the end of comment #4: If they can create the impression that there is real debate on the subject, then people with little knowledge who have other reasons for choosing windows (whether real reasons or reasons created by marketing) will be able to think to themselves when told about the insecurity of Windows, "Ah, that person is on the anti-Windows side of THE DEBATE." and ignore their expertise because of the (assumed to exist) other experts who are on the pro-Windows side of THE DEBATE. So this piece is less laughable than it seems to us. We should try hard to make it clear that *there is no real debate on this subject except in the mouths of marketing flacks*.Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600
Subject: Linux Today - The Great Security Debate: Linux vs. Windows
>From the end of comment #4: If they can create the impression that there is real debate on the subject, then people with little knowledge who have other reasons for choosing windows (whether real reasons or reasons created by marketing) will be able to think to themselves when told about the insecurity of Windows, "Ah, that person is on the anti-Windows side of THE DEBATE." and ignore their expertise because of the (assumed to exist) other experts who are on the pro-Windows side of THE DEBATE. So this piece is less laughable than it seems to us. We should try hard to make it clear that *there is no real debate on this subject except in the mouths of marketing flacks*.Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600
Subject: Linux Today - The Great Security Debate: Linux vs. Windows
>From the end of comment #4: If they can create the impression that there is real debate on the subject, then people with little knowledge who have other reasons for choosing windows (whether real reasons or reasons created by marketing) will be able to think to themselves when told about the insecurity of Windows, "Ah, that person is on the anti-Windows side of THE DEBATE." and ignore their expertise because of the (assumed to exist) other experts who are on the pro-Windows side of THE DEBATE. So this piece is less laughable than it seems to us. We should try hard to make it clear that *there is no real debate on this subject except in the mouths of marketing flacks*.Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600
Subject: The Little Engine that Could
When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case."Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600
Subject: The Little Engine that Could
When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case."Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600
Subject: The Little Engine that Could
When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case."Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:58:13 -0600
Subject: The Little Engine that Could
When Brown looks back at the Visual Effects Society's watershed Linux meeting, he sees it as a turning point. "When we found out how seriously people were considering Linux, we saw that we should make a consistent effort to get where we need to be," he asserts. "We've realized that we have to get the message out to the major vendors that Linux is not an option-it's a necessity. Luckily, most of the big vendors have realized that is indeed the case."Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 19:19:50 -0600
Subject: 1996: MS pledges to Internet-enable all products
.net still has not come. I wonder if the Wintrolls and sock-puppets will claim it did not start that long ago.Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600
Subject: Another example of M$ using ambigous language in contracts.
Since it was a Washington State judge I think Timeline would have won every point in a different venue.Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600
Subject: Another example of M$ using ambigous language in contracts.
Since it was a Washington State judge I think Timeline would have won every point in a different venue.Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 17:16:20 -0600
Subject: Another example of M$ using ambigous language in contracts.
Since it was a Washington State judge I think Timeline would have won every point in a different venue.Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 16:27:32 -0600
CC: Rex BallardSubject: A different statement of the GPL ?
boundary="------------74577AD972F82768C3604F60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------74577AD972F82768C3604F60 -- How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape? - BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meetingDate: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 11:32:15 -0600
To: "T. Max Devlin"Subject: MS has 55% of the SSL web sites
boundary="------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC7FE2E5C71F16935B7BCD34 I talked with a top notch webmaster on Friday and happened to mention that I did not understand how Apache could have 60% of all web sites and IIS could have 55% of all the SSL sites. He said it is a combination of two things, SSL is a bitch to integrate with Apache and IE does not follow the negotiation protocol for keepalives with SSL. Most web admins don't have management patient enough to let them discover that IE fails to negotiate properly when keepalives are used. The default configuration of Apache has them on by default. He changed his sites to not use keepalives when the browser was IE and everybody was happy because he did not have to throw Apache away and recode the all the pages for IIS. So the primary reason they have so much server percentage is that they have "leveraged" their browser monoply by fixing IE so it fails to work with non Microsoft servers. That is another Sherman Act violation but they will not be in court on it as far as I can tell. --Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:01:33 -0600
Subject: The Register describes Itanium deathwatch
This reminds me of the Intel chip from the mid 80s which ran Ada as its machinecode. They finally abandoned it when an eight megahertz 68000 could outrun it.Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:47:29 -0600
Subject: Open Source developer offers to set trap for CPRM
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:49:04 -0600
Subject: Linux is Poised for a Breakout Year At the Checkout in 2001 According to IHL Consulting Group
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:03:36 -0600
Subject: Microsoft disputes research about Gigabit performance of Win 2000, 02/26/01
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:33:53 -0600
Subject: Microsoft reportedly under fire from FTC over handheld ad
Maybe one of the remedies should be forcing all employees to attend an ethics course.Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:52:18 -0600
Subject: Microsoft may be validating the GPL
I think he is right. Microsoft lawyers cannot figure a valid legal assault on GPL so MS is running to the government like they have repeatedly done with targets too big for them to tackle on their own. They are sure that any direct attack on the GPL would be a PR disaster and that any trial would expose their frustration at not being able to profiteer with GPL code. A loser both ways so they are hoping to get ignorant Congressmen to outlaw it instead.Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:42:03 -0600
Subject: Belluzo to be new M$ COO
This the guy who took SGI from profits just behind Sun to near bankruptcy. I hope his reward from Redmond will enable him to do the same for M$.Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:15:06 -0600
Subject: Microsoft funds new lab, more Mincraft type lies on the way ?
Ed Allen wrote: > > “CE used to be very slow and very big-sort of a scaled-down Windows,” > said Markus Levy, an analyst at MicroDesign Resources and president of > the EDN Embedded Microprocessor Benchmark Consortium in El Dorado Hills, > Calif., which is also creating a lab to classify OS performance. > “Microsoft has been very aggressive in trying to get [the OS lab] to > fruition so they can prove what CE's capabilities are. That makes me > think maybe they don't have anything to hide.” > > http://www.ebnonline.com/digest/story/OEG20010212S0130Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:21:34 -0600
Subject: [Fwd: Microsoft funds new lab, more Mincraft type lies on the way ?]
Ed Allen wrote: >=20 > =93CE used to be very slow and very big-sort of a scaled-down Windows,=94 > said Markus Levy, an analyst at MicroDesign Resources and president of > the EDN Embedded Microprocessor Benchmark Consortium in El Dorado Hills= , > Calif., which is also creating a lab to classify OS performance. > =93Microsoft has been very aggressive in trying to get [the OS lab] to > fruition so they can prove what CE's capabilities are. That makes me > think maybe they don't have anything to hide.=94 >=20 > http://www.ebnonline.com/digest/story/OEG20010212S0130Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:43:24 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: Govt.-Industry team to release "supercomputer on a CD"
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:03:27 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: ZDNet: Interactive Week: Linux Takes On Bigger Jobs
-- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff MerkeyDate: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:03:45 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: Linux makes the difference ?
"Hewlett-Packard is talking about a weak first half: IBM is talking about no such thing," said Shebly Seyrafi, analyst with A.G. Edwards & Sons. -- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff MerkeyDate: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:55:08 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: IBM Also Says (Unofficially), It Looks Like Linux is Paying Off
-- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff MerkeyDate: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:41:59 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.net, tmax@voicenet.comSubject: Pizza maker about to switch to Linux
I think that the unnamed company here is Pizza Hut. -- FYI. When you do type "make" on the Windows NT source tree, it takes almost 38 hours for it to complete on a 4-way 400 Mhz PII System, as opposed to about 5 minutes on Linux. Linux is not Doomed!!!!!! -- Jeff MerkeyDate: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:23:01 -0600
To: "T. Max Devlin"Subject: Microsoft pushes for 100 million Xbox sales
Save this link for when X-Bob sales do not live up to expectations.Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:26:15 -0600
To: tmax@voicenet.com, r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: Another Key Microsoft Windows exec departs
More and more underpinnings of the monopoly are cashing out before the breakup.Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:10:44 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.net, tmax@voicenet.comSubject: Drugs, Microsoft and .Net
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:57:49 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: The "official" story of how Gates obtained Dec BASIC
When C-cubed went out of business in 1970, the Lakeside Programmers Club=20 nearly imploded in civil war. Gates and Evans arranged to buy a set of=20 DEC tapes cheap in a bankruptcy auction =97 without the knowledge of thei= r partners.Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 17:29:57 -0600
From: Edgar Allen
To: r.e.ballard@usa.net
Subject: Microsoft Supports Windows Media Services On Linux
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 11:57:31 -0600
To: r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: 2.5 million initially and $700,000 more with Microsoft
Mime-Version: 1.0 >X-From_: owner-linux-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Wed Dec 27 11:33:33 2000 >Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:31:12 -0500 >Reply-To: Linux on 390 PortDate: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:41:23 -0600
To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: Win2000 sales disappointing analysts
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:30:23 -0600
To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: Quietly shifting away from the antitrust witnesses
Removing the ones who know where the oldest skeletons are buried ?Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:22:36 -0600
To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: Microsoft VP Joachim Kempin Leaving Post
I keep hoping for a "night of the long knives" but I have seen nothing to indicate Jim Alchin is in disfavor.Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:47:58 -0600
To: tmax@nbn.net, r.e.ballard@usa.netSubject: M$ exclusionary terms removed from RoadRunner contracts
boundary="------------DC42EAC61DF92E2F282BCCDD" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DC42EAC61DF92E2F282BCCDD Yet, a statement released by Time Warner, notes that a 20 percent combined interest of Road Runner held by Microsoft Corp. and Compaq Computer Corp. will be redeemed, while a joint venture between AT&T and Road Runner will be dissolved. Luftman insists that buying out Microsoft's share is a step in opening up competition, not shutting it out. "Microsoft held minority ownership in Road Runner and we are buying back shares," he said. "Today's announcement helps us to remove limitations within the affiliation agreement and accelerate our ability to offer multiple ISP systems. This has nothing to do with the MSN network. As far as ISP negotiations go, talks with the MSN network are under way." --------------DC42EAC61DF92E2F282BCCDD name="0,,8_538241,00.html" filename="0,,8_538241,00.html" rticle/0,,8_538241,00.html" rticle/0,,8_538241,00.html"
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