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On Tue, 18 Apr 1995, Aaron R. Priven wrote:

> > On Fri, 14 Apr 1995, Aaron R. Priven wrote:
> 
> > >                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> > > 
> > > PROPOSED GROUPS:
> 
> > Adding a few - based on extended history.
> 
> Since it appears you do not have Usenet, you should understand some
> aspects of the group creation procedures.  
> 
> 1) The group creation discussion should be in news.groups, not the
> mailing lists.
Many of the readers on the online-news and online-newspapers mailing 
lists are coming from bullet-proof fire-walls that allow ONLY POP3 
e-mail.  Some are not allowed to read news, or are filtered out of all 
but biz, comp, and intracompany newsgroups.  The firewalls don't allow 
for telnet out.  This list includes about 2000 readers who can only 
access WWW and Mail.

> 2) Generally one creates a small set of groups and waits until they
> are busy to create more subgroups.  Your additions are premature.
Online news generates 100 messages/day on redundant themes.  We have to
sort through the mess every single day.  Every Monday, I face 400-600
messages (when everybody else is catching up on e-mail)

> 3) 100 messages/day is high but not unreasonable for a newsgroup.  I
> don't expect misc.industry.media.journalism will have this high a
> number.  I expect talk.media.journalism will, but it will not be
> moderated.
Remember, this list is restricted.  You have to apply to be on it, and 
you have to be accepted.  When everyone on the network get into the act, 
and people start cross-posting, it will get very busy very quickly.

> > Would someone please post my reply? (My host is not NNTP friendly).
> If you do not have Usenet, why do you want to participate in the
> Usenet group creation process?  You will not be able to use any of this.
I can telnet over to a "news-friendly" environment, but I don't have GUIs
when I do.  I am using PINE right now.  I'll get on that group, if I every
catch up with online-news (this is part of my job).

> > We may have several candidates for moderators, including 5 different 
> > commercial "moderaors"
> > Ready to give up control to your competitor?
> My goal is to make sure the utterly irrelevant stuff stays out of the
> newsgroup.  If others are willing to do this I would be happy to let
> them, or to have several people moderate the group cooperatively.  
What may seem irrelevant to you may be entirely relevant to a potential
publisher.  I could refer them to "comp.arch" or comp.os.linux, but
they need to know why DOS-6.0 is not appropriate as a server exposed to 9 
million people, especially when they are also connecting that server to 
the corporate LAN.

> I got into this only after it seemed clear that Aaron Dickey
> (kieran@interport.net) was not interested in proceeding.  
Either way, some sort of newsgroup should be created which can be "thrown 
over the walls".  Alt.journalism isn't the best way.

> -- 
> Aaron Priven; San Jose, CA, USA.  aaronrp@best.com.
> Are computers alive?  I know my computer doesn't have a life,
> because it spends all its time on the net.

So do I.  That's why I want the groups

	Rex Ballard
	Director of Electronic Distribution
	Standard & Poor's/McGraw-Hill


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